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Old 03-08-2009 | 04:32 PM
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Nor are these:

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THE MULLANEY REPORT
Mr. Norb Mullaney, a professional engineer, is recognized as the leading authority on the physics of bows and endows. He states that "The hand held bow has one characteristic that distinguishes it from a crossbow or any type of firearm. The internal ballistics are a function of the shooter, his or her physical geometry and capabilities, shooting form, consistency and reaction to stress and trauma. In the crossbow and firearms, the internal ballistics are fixed. The action of the shooter in triggering a release of energy does nothing more than initiate a process that is consistent and repetitive. The hand held bow is different. Every action of the shooter contributes something either positive or negative to the interior ballistic process. As the interior ballistics vary, so do the exterior ballistics. Shooting the hand held bow and arrow is much more complicated than aiming a fixed system of ballistics and touching off the energy discharge. The total energy to draw, hold and release the bow must come directly and unassisted from the shooter's muscle power."
Copies of the Mullaney Report can be obtained from Mr. Mullaney, Engineer, Writer, 8425 North Greenvale Rd. Milwaukee W/ 53217"
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Old 03-08-2009 | 04:33 PM
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THE MARLOW REPORT
The technical information on equipment, contained in the "Marrow Report" was compiled by Roy S. Marlow and associates; titled "The Modem Hunting Crossbow-- A Study of it's Effectiveness Compared to the Hand Held Bow, 1 989".
Roy S. Marlow's areas of expertise are in design, theoretical analysis, and experimental evaluation of structural and mechanical systems. He holds a BS degree in aerospace engineering, an MS degree in mechanical engineering, and an MBA degree in management with a concentration in the management of research and development activities. He is a member of several national engineering societies and scholastic fraternities, is active on industrial committees, and task groups, and has written widely on technical subjects. In 1984 he received the Eugene W. Jacobs Award, which is awarded annually by the American Mechanical Engineers for technical excellence.
The Marlow Report concludes that the crossbow is technically superior to the modem hand held bow in almost every category of comparison. Further, the report concludes that the crossbow is more similar to a fireman than a hand held bow and that crossbows should not be considered as archery equipment. The crossbow which is always cocked, shoulder held, shot from a rest, fired by a trigger and has over twice the effective range of a bow is closer to being a firearm than a hand held bow.
Copy's of the Marrow Report can be obtained from RS Marlow & Associates, 12503 Chapel Bell, San Antonio, TX 78230
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Old 03-08-2009 | 04:36 PM
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Link to another: http://www.newyorkbowhunters.com/pages/anti2.html

My work is done here too.
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Old 03-08-2009 | 04:49 PM
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[align=center]THE MULLANEY REPORT [/align]Mr. Norb Mullaney, a professional engineer, is recognized as the leading authority on the physics of bows and endows. He states that "The hand held bow has one characteristic that distinguishes it from a crossbow or any type of firearm. The internal ballistics are a function of the shooter, his or her physical geometry and capabilities, shooting form, consistency and reaction to stress and trauma. In the crossbow and firearms, the internal ballistics are fixed. The action of the shooter in triggering a release of energy does nothing more than initiate a process that is consistent and repetitive. The hand held bow is different. Every action of the shooter contributes something either positive or negative to the interior ballistic process. As the interior ballistics vary, so do the exterior ballistics. Shooting the hand held bow and arrow is much more complicated than aiming a fixed system of ballistics and touching off the energy discharge. The total energy to draw, hold and release the bow must come directly and unassisted from the shooter's muscle power."
Copies of the Mullaney Report can be obtained from Mr. Mullaney, Engineer, Writer, 8425 North Greenvale Rd. Milwaukee W/ 53217"
Yes it is. Unless Mr. Mullaney has multilpe personalities. Nothing like overstating the obvious differences between a bow and a cross-bow.
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Old 03-08-2009 | 04:54 PM
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...Maybe you dont read so well.

"Nor are these: "
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Old 03-08-2009 | 04:57 PM
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explain these with reference to what you originally posted.
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Old 03-08-2009 | 05:10 PM
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I said THESE, then proceeded to post THREE evaluations. NOT ONE. Mulaney. Marlowe and Ny conservation officers association. Which YOU followed up with this
Yes it is. Unless Mr. Mullaney has multilpe personalities.
If I werent in a lazy mood I could also post tons of state and national archery organizations against xguns, as well as the fact most states do not have them legal for able bodied hunters in their regular archery seasons. Not to mention Pope & young etc...

Need we go further? I said I was done... Why try to keep this going? In the end, I'll still think the crossgun an asnine shortcut and you will still think they are the best thing since sliced bread. I hope Ive cleared up your question.

Btw, am I now the only one you have to argue with on the topic? LOL I see the fellers over at bowsite Pa section have prohibited further crossgun conversation. Said they were afraid of alienating Pgc further! (LOL) What a bunch of brown nosers. What is pgc gonna do? Make their worst fears reality and legalize crossguns? LOL
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Old 03-08-2009 | 05:14 PM
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And what is the point of posting the obvious differences between bow and cross-bows vs. acceptance by recognized archery organizations?
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Old 03-08-2009 | 05:55 PM
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Because I care about as much about those organizationswho "recognize" crossguns as archery equipment about as much as you care about the huge majority of those which do not.
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Old 03-08-2009 | 07:09 PM
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Take a lesson from the PA situation guys. The crossbow is probably coming to your state too. Pennsylvania wasn't the first but was the HUGE domino to fall in this game.

As SS said, bowhunter edcouldgo a long wayto preventthe new blood from coming in as bad blood. Pa opponents to the crossbowobviously made a mistake with their all or nothing oppostion and missed the chance to fix the biggest potential that could come with crossbow invlusionissue with
No doubt the xbow legislation would be an easier pill to swallow if they had taken those steps to initiate a mandatory bowhunter ed course at the same time...FOR ALL BOWHUNTERS. If I'm not mistaken some states already require it, but adding another program for the PGC to run at this point would be a mistake. Considering maybe half or so of the bowhunters I know/ see spend what I would consider enough practice time preseason and during as well...I fear the worst with the crossbows. I wonder how many would attempt a neck or shoulder shot, bad angle, or some brush interference,forgetting that while it may handle like a gun, it is most assuredly not one. I hope to God they are going to prove me wrong.
WHAT YOU SAY, IN MY OPINION IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

WITH SCOPE ON AND A GUN FEEL AND IDEA THEY CAN SHOOT 60 YDS EASY, NO DOUBT THEY WILL SHOOT THRU BRUSH OR NECK SHOTS.

I WOULD SAY NECK SHOT WILL BE THE POINT OF AIM WITH MOST.
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