Some nice bucks (pic)
03-06-2009 | 05:57 AM
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RE: Some nice bucks (pic)
ORIGINAL: blkpowder
Poor BB keeps taking a beating!!
Poor BB keeps taking a beating!!
03-06-2009 | 06:03 AM
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RE: Some nice bucks (pic)
The only way to tell for sure is to bust open the femur.However,the postion the deer is in a very common way to find winter-killed deer.
Check out the overbrowsed,hedged seedling that keeps trying to grow but the deer keep hammering it.I can't tell for sure but it appears to be beecha nd if the deer are hitting the beech that hard,that habitat is very poor.
Check out the overbrowsed,hedged seedling that keeps trying to grow but the deer keep hammering it.I can't tell for sure but it appears to be beecha nd if the deer are hitting the beech that hard,that habitat is very poor.
03-06-2009 | 06:28 AM
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RE: Some nice bucks (pic)
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But only from those that have to rely on cheapshots or lies and can't support their position with facts. Livbucks can't even tell us the RDD on which he wants deer management to be based, RSB doesn't know that we no longer have DD goals, BTB lied about what I posted and BWJ admitted he posts nonsense.
ORIGINAL: blkpowder
Poor BB keeps taking a beating!!
Poor BB keeps taking a beating!!
When every one knows 2 F could ,would& should blah blah
And now we have twice as much blahggggggggg[:-]
03-06-2009 | 10:18 AM
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RE: Some nice bucks (pic)
ORIGINAL: livbucks
Probably the deer retaliating for density being managed higher in 2f than 2g.
It's a principle thing.
Probably the deer retaliating for density being managed higher in 2f than 2g.
It's a principle thing.
Another one had a tattoo on his front leg it said Live free in 2G or die.
Musta been a vet.[8D]
03-06-2009 | 01:33 PM
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RE: Some nice bucks (pic)
Here is an interesting quote from one of BTB's links.
Note that excessive deer populations was the last cuase listed for the lack of regeneration.
The challenges are many. We can relate the failure to many issues: loss of seed sources, competing understory plants such as ferns or mountain laurel, too many poor quality trees and wrong species left after harvesting, and excessive deer populations. The latter issue is very controversial, but if there are only a few seedlings or stump sprouts of desirable browse in the woods, even a few deer can have a major effect.
To learn more about your wood's future as you walk through the winter landscape, look for young trees on the forest floor. Are they poking up through flattened ferns? Are they extending above the snow? Is there a general layer of shrubs that deer apparently don’t eat? Are deer stopping to browse on the seedlings you do see? Do you see evidence of deer, turkey, and squirrel digging and scraping for seeds in the forest litter? There are many questions to consider in understanding the potential of your woods to provide future benefits.
Research studies repeatedly find that if you fail to have regeneration in place before harvesting, you will struggle to get regeneration in the future. Other competing plants will have the advantage over young trees trying to establish themselves. Seedlings already on the site, that are tall and strong, can compete successfully with other plants. If repeated browsing has created misshapen seedlings with multiple tops, their ability to develop into quality stems may be frustrated. The evidence of wildlife looking for seeds clearly suggests your overstory trees are fruiting, but if none of the seed ever sprouts, there could be too much competition for mast, or light conditions either in the canopy or close to the ground may not be ideal.
To learn more about your wood's future as you walk through the winter landscape, look for young trees on the forest floor. Are they poking up through flattened ferns? Are they extending above the snow? Is there a general layer of shrubs that deer apparently don’t eat? Are deer stopping to browse on the seedlings you do see? Do you see evidence of deer, turkey, and squirrel digging and scraping for seeds in the forest litter? There are many questions to consider in understanding the potential of your woods to provide future benefits.
Research studies repeatedly find that if you fail to have regeneration in place before harvesting, you will struggle to get regeneration in the future. Other competing plants will have the advantage over young trees trying to establish themselves. Seedlings already on the site, that are tall and strong, can compete successfully with other plants. If repeated browsing has created misshapen seedlings with multiple tops, their ability to develop into quality stems may be frustrated. The evidence of wildlife looking for seeds clearly suggests your overstory trees are fruiting, but if none of the seed ever sprouts, there could be too much competition for mast, or light conditions either in the canopy or close to the ground may not be ideal.