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blkpowder 02-10-2009 08:26 AM
RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
 
He's got my vote too.

BTBowhunter 02-10-2009 09:03 AM
RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
 
ORIGINAL: bluebird2

quote:

In the face of alot of research that supports the prospect of AR's producing high grading effects, we may be closing the door to more top end specimens like him in the future.

Have you read the research that concludes the opposite?
Here are no studies that conclude the exact opposite. What they conclude is that there is no reason to cull 1.5 spikes. They also conclude that spikes are inferior for the rate of antler development and therefore they are concluding that protecting 1.5 spikes while harvesting the better buck will result in high grading and smaller average rack size.
What would you suggest we do statewide in PA?
Eliminate ARs!!!

Well since the vast majority supports AR, it seems you've got a better chance trying EJ's idea. It's not as if it will cost you any venison

bluebird2 02-10-2009 10:44 AM
RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
 
Well since the vast majority supports AR, it seems you've got a better chance trying EJ's idea. It's not as if it will cost you any venison
The majority support ARs because they weren't told ARs will reduce the rack sizes and that we now have fewer 2.5+ buck than before ARs.

bawanajim 02-10-2009 11:30 AM
RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
 
ORIGINAL: bluebird2

Well since the vast majority supports AR, it seems you've got a better chance trying EJ's idea. It's not as if it will cost you any venison
The majority support ARs because they weren't told ARs will reduce the rack sizes and that we now have fewer 2.5+ buck than before ARs.
Once again Ole spinner of [&:]tales, we have less 2.5 year old bucks because we only have half as many total deer,it was called herd reduction,maybe you missed that part.

As a total % of the herd today we have a greater percentage of 2.5 year olds now.

This is so elementary you'd think even a baby [&:]bird could understand it.

bluebird2 02-10-2009 12:10 PM
RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
 
The funny thing is Alt and the PGC apparently didn't understand it because they told hunters for years that we would have more and bigger buck than ever before, and a lot of hunters believed them. I didn't.

bawanajim 02-10-2009 12:13 PM
RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
 
ORIGINAL: bluebird2

The funny thing is Alt and the PGC apparently didn't understand it because they told hunters for years that we would have more and bigger buck than ever before, and a lot of hunters believed them. I didn't.
And even a little [&:]bird can see as a percentage of the herd we have more and bigger bucks.

You believed me .;)

bluebird2 02-10-2009 12:26 PM
RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
 
And even a little bird can see as a percentage of the herd we have more and bigger bucks.
And if Alt and the PGC had said that they wouldn't have been lying!!

bawanajim 02-10-2009 12:42 PM
RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
 
ORIGINAL: bluebird2

And even a little bird can see as a percentage of the herd we have more and bigger bucks.
And if Alt and the PGC had said that they wouldn't have been lying!!
Its like you've seen the light, now admitting what we've known all along,that 2 1/2 year old bucks are getting bigger too.

Who says you can't teach an old [&:]bird new tricks?

bluebird2 02-10-2009 12:48 PM
RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
 
They would be bigger buck only because the average buck harvested with an AR herd would be bigger than the average bucks in a non_AR herd only because the smaller buck would not be illegal. The average rack size of 2.5+ buck will always be smaller with ARs than the rack size of the average 2.5+ buck in a non-AR herd.

bawanajim 02-10-2009 01:07 PM
RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
 
ORIGINAL: bluebird2

They would be bigger buck only because the average buck harvested with an AR herd would be bigger than the average bucks in a non_AR herd only because the smaller buck would not be illegal. The average rack size of 2.5+ buck will always be smaller with ARs than the rack size of the average 2.5+ buck in a non-AR herd.
"Always", yea right "always" must of stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. You are killing me.:D

The little [&:]bird of wisdom has spoken, "always"

Any thing on that apology yet?


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