PGC data flawed
02-09-2009 | 05:38 AM
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RE: PGC data flawed
ORIGINAL: DougE
turkeys do not eat seedlings.
turkeys do not eat seedlings.
02-09-2009 | 07:03 AM
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RE: PGC data flawed
That's right, they just eat the whole seedling. Obviously he is talking about when the seeds first sprout in the spring and it is nothing more that a sprouted acorn or seed with the very start of new growth.
02-09-2009 | 07:28 AM
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RE: PGC data flawed
ORIGINAL: DougE
Nope.Hesaid seedlings.
Nope.Hesaid seedlings.
the PGC/DCNR wannabees that helped me stock fish at bush dam last week are starting that.
THEY GOT TO PUSH THAT HR KILL DOE AGENDA.[:@]
so much FIBBING going on these days to WALK THE TALK.
02-09-2009 | 07:58 AM
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RE: PGC data flawed
ORIGINAL: explorer_Jack
Turkey do so impact the habitat. They eat seedlings and new plant growth also. Haven't you ever seen them around newly planted fields? To say they don't affect habitat is something a stupid person would say.You got a hybrid turkey that causes no habitat loss and feeds on nothing to grow in PA?
ORIGINAL: DougE
DCNR doesn't care how many turkeys they have.They're concerned about deer because deer impact the habitat,turkeys do not.Where do you come up with this stuff?
DCNR doesn't care how many turkeys they have.They're concerned about deer because deer impact the habitat,turkeys do not.Where do you come up with this stuff?
Turkey do so impact the habitat. They eat seedlings and new plant growth also. Haven't you ever seen them around newly planted fields? To say they don't affect habitat is something a stupid person would say.You got a hybrid turkey that causes no habitat loss and feeds on nothing to grow in PA?
02-09-2009 | 11:07 AM
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RE: PGC data flawed
ORIGINAL: ManySpurs
Yea but the realvalue of that study would have been knowing how many hunters were required to kill those 8 percent. Knowing the success rate would have been very beneficial to forming allocation formulas. What a concept eh? Just knowing that 8 percent of the collared doe that were harvested by hunters is meaningless without knowing the number of hunters that were required to achieve that 8 percent.
ORIGINAL: DougE
The doe mortality study shows that hunters are killingless than 8% of the doe.
The doe mortality study shows that hunters are killingless than 8% of the doe.
Actually part of the same study does attempt to determine hunter densities by both placing GPS units on hunters and using aircraft to count hunters, determine how far form the roads they go and to see where the deer are in relation to where the hunters went.
There are some reports available on that topic. I expect more to come in the future as more studies are completed.
Read more about it here.
http://pacfwru.cas.psu.edu/reports/final-huntmvmt-082004.pdf
R.S. Bodenhorn