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germain 02-03-2009 04:24 PM

RE: Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
 

ORIGINAL: bluebird2

If you want to know what hunters think about the current deer management plan just look at the decreasing non-resident license sales.

I can't imagine why anybody would come from another state to hunt public land in PA.Not for deer anyway

bowhunter2117 02-03-2009 04:31 PM

RE: Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
 
Sir thanks for the heads up email sent. Contrary to what those that posters here that support the plan yet don’t feel its effects because they hunt posted family farms or gated communities think pa hunting stinks.

BTBowhunter 02-03-2009 04:33 PM

RE: Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
 

ORIGINAL: germain

My opinion on the subject,I blame the feds for the low rabbit numbers.There's way too many hawks and it's time to lift protection to a point.I've also noticed a decline in rabbit numbers as the coyote population increased.{my area in clearfield}
I would like to see more done for grouse habitat.
We have a pretty good bear population right now
pretty good for turkeys too in most places.
There's some great deer hunting in PA but a very high percentage of that is on controlled private land.I'd like to see more done for land open to hunting and the problems of overharvesting.

I agree with you on all fronts Germain. The only thing I'd say is we need to improve habitat on public ground and I'm not just saying to do it by reducing the herd. We need some concerted efforts to do more to improve habitat. Especially on game lands. Funds are always going to be an issue but we need to find a way.

BTBowhunter 02-03-2009 04:38 PM

RE: Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
 

ORIGINAL: germain


ORIGINAL: bluebird2

If you want to know what hunters think about the current deer management plan just look at the decreasing non-resident license sales.

I can't imagine why anybody would come from another state to hunt public land in PA.Not for deer anyway
You know whats amazing? An outfitter just up the Allegheny River from my camp is doing a brisk business as a deer hunting outfitter and putting his hunters on ANF land in 2F. He has clients coming from as far as Europe, many are annual repeatersand spending serious $$ to do it.

bluebird2 02-03-2009 04:41 PM

RE: Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
 

Especially on game lands. Funds are always going to be an issue but we need to find a way.
The SGLs are the only public land managed specifically for wildlife. the carrying capacity on SGL is much higher than what the PGC will allow ,so improving the habitat will do nothing to improve hunting.

bowhunter2117 02-03-2009 04:42 PM

RE: Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
 
the pgc can do what dcnr does
1st dmap the land to where seeing 2 deer is a good season
2nd timber the land
3rd fence it all in to increase profit

the pgc turned deer management over to dcnr through the dmap program its dcnrs land to manage the deer are to be managed by the PGC

germain 02-03-2009 04:47 PM

RE: Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
 
That honestly surprises me BT.I see alot of guys complaining about deer numbers in the ANF but I can't personally comment because I've never been there.I suppose if they go through an outfitter he has the time to scout and find the pockets of deer.However an out of stater on his own with little or no scouting time is in for a big disappointment on our public lands.Not unless he simply enjoys being out in nature.:D

bluebird2 02-03-2009 04:50 PM

RE: Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
 

You know whats amazing? An outfitter just up the Allegheny River from my camp is doing a brisk business as a deer hunting outfitter and putting his hunters on ANF land in 2F. He has clients coming from as far as Europe, many are annual repeaters and spending serious $$ to do it.
Post a link to his website. On second thought don't bother.

http://www.alleghenywildernessoutfitter.com/

BTBowhunter 02-03-2009 05:19 PM

RE: Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
 

ORIGINAL: germain

That honestly surprises me BT.I see alot of guys complaining about deer numbers in the ANF but I can't personally comment because I've never been there.I suppose if they go through an outfitter he has the time to scout and find the pockets of deer.However an out of stater on his own with little or no scouting time is in for a big disappointment on our public lands.Not unless he simply enjoys being out in nature.:D
I know a little bit about how they run their hunts and they work hard for their clients but they arent doing anything that anyone couldn't do. I even know of a few of the spots where they do their drives. I'll just say they earn em the old fashioned way.

BTBowhunter 02-03-2009 05:20 PM

RE: Pennsylvania hunters about to be "HOSED"
 

ORIGINAL: bluebird2


You know whats amazing? An outfitter just up the Allegheny River from my camp is doing a brisk business as a deer hunting outfitter and putting his hunters on ANF land in 2F. He has clients coming from as far as Europe, many are annual repeatersand spending serious $$ to do it.
Post a link to his website. On second thought don't bother.

http://www.alleghenywildernessoutfitter.com/
Yep, thats them!


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