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RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
ORIGINAL: bawanajim Not only are S.G.L. over hunted they are hunted from the same parking lots year after year. One of the last years we hunted at camp we hunted a game lands toward the end of the season and we saw little or no deer,the next year we got a map of the area and walked in from the back side early before the first day. My wife and I both shot bucks before noon,bucks that were sneaking out the back side. You don't have to go way back, you have to go where others won't. |
RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
ORIGINAL: sproulman ORIGINAL: bawanajim Not only are S.G.L. over hunted they are hunted from the same parking lots year after year. One of the last years we hunted at camp we hunted a game lands toward the end of the season and we saw little or no deer,the next year we got a map of the area and walked in from the back side early before the first day. My wife and I both shot bucks before noon,bucks that were sneaking out the back side. You don't have to go way back, you have to go where others won't. You guys cutting any browse over there? Since I started cutting maple a couple fo weeks ago the number ofdeer at my feeders is really down,they love those maple buds.:) |
RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
they wont let us do it on SFL anymore.:(
i bent a few smalltrees down and tie them with a string, they nibble tops off a little.then i cut strings in spring and let tree pop back up. |
RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
ORIGINAL: sproulman they wont let us do it on SFL anymore.:( i bent a few smalltrees down and tie them with a string, they nibble tops off a little.then i cut strings in spring and let tree pop back up. Cutting soft maple in the winter is a win - win,it feeds deer at their hardest time of year and opens the canopy so sun light reaches the forest floor so desirable trees can grow. |
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You don't have to go way back, you have to go where others won't. EGGZACKLY!!!  My hearts too screwed up these days to simply go way back but there's still lots of opportunity for those who think about it, plan for it and work their plan. |
RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter You don't have to go way back, you have to go where others won't. EGGZACKLY!!! My hearts too screwed up these days to simply go way back but there's still lots of opportunity for those who think about it, plan for it and work their plan.
where is wayback:eek: |
RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
ORIGINAL: sproulman ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter You don't have to go way back, you have to go where others won't. EGGZACKLY!!! My hearts too screwed up these days to simply go way back but there's still lots of opportunity for those who think about it, plan for it and work their plan.
where is wayback:eek: |
RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
ORIGINAL: Coalcracker I had once posted on that PGC site, that my father told me that years ago, they had stocked deer from another state in the Poconos and cut off the bucks horn to save them from breeding. RSB and people like you, jumped all over me and said they never stocked deer in PA. Finally, I think it was John S, said yes they did and also in the NC. Another time on a discussion of the difference in weather in different parts of PA. I live in Lehigh County now, stated that when I croosed the Blue Mountain into Carbon County the temp decreased five degrees and when going into the Poconos it decreased another five degrees. You friend RSB, jumped all over me again, he said that was impossible and couldn't be true. Finally someone that was also from the area, confirmed what I said. That was the end of the Almight RSB, but don't ever expect him to admit he was wrong. The way I see it with you and your two buddies, RSB is using the three of you to try and get those that disagree with PGC into an argument to get thrown off this site. I'm happy to see the game plan isn't working and you look like a fool, with your white dead talking horse. I think your father spared the rod and ruined the child. Where did you come up with that BS? At this point I don’t k now if you are just seriously confused about what was posted and by whom, if you dream things and think they are reality, have reached serious senility, or if you are nothing more then a malicious liar. What I do know is that I never challenged anyone about deer being restocked in this state. I have know for many decades that the deer were almost no existent by the end of the eighteen hundreds and that deer were brought in and stocked in this state. In fact I have seen the pictures of those deer being stocked and even have some of the data on how many in the various counties. I also know that would never challenge a person over temperature changes from area to another. I see major temperature changes all the time right here in this area. I can drive from the bottom to the top of the mountain and see not only a major temperature change but go from no snow to several inches of snow. There are time when I can look out my windows and see bare ground all around and by simply looking across the valley at the facing mountain side and see the snow line half way up the mountain. I have driven on dry roads and headed up that mountain and within five minutes have driven into road conditions that had traffic at a stand still due to snow and ice. If you can find where I made the comments you claim I did how about you copy and pasting them over for all to see. You can’t do that though because such comments don’t exist. Perhaps your dad didn’t teach to be as honorable as you claim but in my effort to give you the benefit of the doubt, I will concede that perhaps you really are just becoming extremely confused in your senior years. R.S. Bodenhorn |
RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
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RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
The adult doe breeding rates, from the highway killed deer I have checked, for the same time five year time periods have also shown a great improvement of 84.4% adult doe being bred before antler restrictions to 98.0% being bred since. Also before antler restrictions it took over five months to get those adult does bred, but since antler restrictions that breeding window has declined to six weeks and even included the few juvenile doe that were bred. The fawn recruitment rates in this area have also improved since antler restrictions, based on the number of fawns per adult doe the volunteer survey teams have seen. Before antler restrictions the five year average was .54 fawns per adult doe and has increased to .63 fawns per adult doe since antler restrictions. |
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Richard we both know that you are the liar and that these things actually happened. I joined that PGC site 12/13/05 and questioned you on a few things, that was was downfall over there, had I praised everything you said, I would have stayed in your good graces. NOw whether you knew about the deer or the change in weather, I do not know and can't prove one way or the other. With youragenda I would put it past you, to play dumb as a fox to silence the opposition.
I haven't participated in that PGC site, for over two years now, except for an occasional post in the habitat forum. We both know that my posts on the subject, wouldn't be there anymore, since they are over two years old. My name over there is RWBROOKSJR, go ahead and get me thrown off, I could care less as that group os mostly made up of cry babies, crying about our poor PGC and theindependent thinking hunters. I was in a bar one night and the bartendersaid he was about to throw me out. I said, "go ahead, I've been thrown out of better place than this before". That's how I feel about your suck up site and your blind followers. |
RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
BB's insistent lies get old. You really ought to investigate when he starts spoutin numbers. Often times he finds ways to add 2+2 and gets 5. Doesn't it bother you in the least that he claims that a whole gang of professional wildlife biologists are all wrong? |
RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter I don't defend Bluebird or anyone else that keeps records and questions RSB's. My father taught me to have respect for people, unlike you and RSB, I have no respect for you or RSB, because neither of youshow respect to others, therefore you deserve non in return. I don't discuss my independent thought much lately, guess I'm still shell shocked from that PGC site, express a view and you have 20 PGC jumping all over you. The way I see it with you and your two buddies, RSB is using the three of you to try and get those that disagree with PGC into an argument to get thrown off this site. I'm happy to see the game plan isn't working and you look like a fool, with your white dead talking horse. I think your father spared the rod and ruined the child. What IS most aggravating to most folks here, is that no thread is safe from Bluebird and company'sBS hijackings. Post a pic of a nice buck.... BB will post an anti AR rant. Post a message about CWD and BB will turn it into an arguement about HR. Ask about hunting a particular area? BB will tell you HR wiped it out. Crossbows? BB's contribution there was another AR/HR brouhaha. A thread about muzzleloader season? BB jumped in with AR/HR there too.Even guys from other states have complained about his hijackings. When I bash the PGC, I do it for the SGL hunters, not for myself, I have my own land to hunt, which is posted and all the land around me, therefore HR has no effect on me. Just because I can go out hunting for two hours and see deer more than 50% of the time, is no reason to bury my head in the sand and say that hunting is great for everyone. |
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RSB, is that your own compilation of data/ percentages or the summary of the official PGC data? That is the data from the highway killed deer I have examined and submitted, to Harrisburg, for the breeding and reproductive rates. The deer that provided that data came from both WMU 2F and 2G, for both before and after antler restrictions. Since it was the deer that provided the data I have great confidence in it being reflective of what is happening in this area. I don’t think the deer have the ability to provide incorrect data, especially when the other supporting data in the buck/doe ratios and fawn recruitment rates from the volunteer survey routes shows the same improving trends. If your district breeding rates are so high now, then you should forward that memo to the PGC so they can save face with the 5% decline overall. The data I collect does go to the biologists in Harrisburg. It is the Biologists who set up the methods and precedures for collecting the data and then those of us in the field use those methods for recovering the data. It is then combined with the data from the other WCOs in the units, compiled and used for developing the management objectives and goals for those respective management units. Your staement about the six week breeding window even for doe fawns would be hard to prove. What do you mean hard to prove? When I remove embryos from a dead doe I have a length measurement scale that tells me how many days old those embryos are. Another part of the scale can be used to determine the date that doe was bred based on the age of the embryos. I do that on every fawn embryo I pull out of a dead doe and have been doing so for many years now. Therefore, I do know when those does from before to after antler restrictions were being bred. Prior to antler restrictions I found adult does bred as late as February 23rd. Since antler restrictions started putting more bucks into the fall deer population I have not had any does bred later then the middle of December. That is a major improvement that I believe in time could lead to even more juvenile does reaching breeding weight during the normal period November and December. As we have fewer late born fawns, from the adult does that are now being bred during the correct time period it is very possible that we will see an increase in the number of juvenile does being bred even in the northern tier areas. Even in great habitat, doe fawns usually do not achieve sufficient weight to enter estrous until January. That isn’t necessarily true. Though a high percentage of the does bred in December and January have typically been the juvenile does we might find that a higher percentage of them will be bred in the more traditional time period of November once the late breeding of the adult does improves and more of the fawns are born on time to reach the correct weight by their first fall. Even if they aren’t bred until January that is still better then not having been bred at all which is what was happening before antler restrictions. We are starting to see fawns that are up to breeding weight in the November and December and also seeing a more of them being bred then was occurring before. If the habitta in your are is as terrible as you claim, that would be quite a feat, indeed. try to keep track of your earlier B.S. comments from time to time to avoid looking like a fool. remember, you already stated that the habitat and predation is controlling the herd there, because the herd still exceeds the max cc according to you. Though the habitat in this part of the state has been seriously damaged, by the decades of far too many deer, that deer population in recent yearsdeclined to the point the habitat has started the process of recovery. I am pleased to say that it is even recovering faster then I and many other expected. Absolutely it was that poor habitat, combined with the lack of mast and back to back harsh winters that set up the environmental conditions, that resulted in the horribly low fawn recruitment rates and low deer numbers we experienced for several years. There is also no question that hunters harvested more deer in those years then were recruited but it was the sharp decline in recruitment that set that stage for those low deer numbers over the past few years. That was really nothing more then nature doing what man failed to do in it promise that nothign can long exist in populations higher then its food supply. With the lower deer number the habitat started to improve. That improving habitat, theslowing increasing fawn recruitment and deer numbers will just be a short lived improvement though if hunters aren’t wise enough to continue holding those over winter deer numbers at a level that allows for continuing habitat recovery. If you think that makes me look foolish then about all I can say is that perhaps it is really just due to a lack of knowledge of the person doing the viewing. R.S. Bodenhorn |
RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
ORIGINAL: Coalcracker Richard we both know that you are the liar and that these things actually happened. I joined that PGC site 12/13/05 and questioned you on a few things, that was was downfall over there, had I praised everything you said, I would have stayed in your good graces. NOw whether you knew about the deer or the change in weather, I do not know and can't prove one way or the other. With youragenda I would put it past you, to play dumb as a fox to silence the opposition. I haven't participated in that PGC site, for over two years now, except for an occasional post in the habitat forum. We both know that my posts on the subject, wouldn't be there anymore, since they are over two years old. My name over there is RWBROOKSJR, go ahead and get me thrown off, I could care less as that group os mostly made up of cry babies, crying about our poor PGC and theindependent thinking hunters. I was in a bar one night and the bartendersaid he was about to throw me out. I said, "go ahead, I've been thrown out of better place than this before". That's how I feel about your suck up site and your blind followers. You can’t produce where I said those things because I never said them and you know it. I have know who you were since you started posting, you didn’t have to tell me. I guess your recent post tells me what kind of person you really are though. You Sir, are not only a liar but a malicious one. When someone lies about another person they are not only malicious but a person of no integrity or honor. I now believe you have neither of those attributes. If I had said those things you would have no problem digging them up and posting them here to prove you honor, but you can’t so you will not. R.S. Bodenhorn |
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If you think that makes me look foolish then about all I can say is that perhaps it is really just due to a lack of knowledge of the person doing the viewing. |
RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
ORIGINAL: R.S.B. ORIGINAL: Coalcracker Richard we both know that you are the liar and that these things actually happened. I joined that PGC site 12/13/05 and questioned you on a few things, that was was downfall over there, had I praised everything you said, I would have stayed in your good graces. NOw whether you knew about the deer or the change in weather, I do not know and can't prove one way or the other. With youragenda I would put it past you, to play dumb as a fox to silence the opposition. I haven't participated in that PGC site, for over two years now, except for an occasional post in the habitat forum. We both know that my posts on the subject, wouldn't be there anymore, since they are over two years old. My name over there is RWBROOKSJR, go ahead and get me thrown off, I could care less as that group os mostly made up of cry babies, crying about our poor PGC and theindependent thinking hunters. I was in a bar one night and the bartendersaid he was about to throw me out. I said, "go ahead, I've been thrown out of better place than this before". That's how I feel about your suck up site and your blind followers. You can’t produce where I said those things because I never said them and you know it. I have know who you were since you started posting, you didn’t have to tell me. I guess your recent post tells me what kind of person you really are though. You Sir, are not only a liar but a malicious one. When someone lies about another person they are not only malicious but a person of no integrity or honor. I now believe you have neither of those attributes. If I had said those things you would have no problem digging them up and posting them here to prove you honor, but you can’t so you will not. R.S. Bodenhorn |
RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
ORIGINAL: R.S.B. ORIGINAL: Coalcracker I had once posted on that PGC site, that my father told me that years ago, they had stocked deer from another state in the Poconos and cut off the bucks horn to save them from breeding. RSB and people like you, jumped all over me and said they never stocked deer in PA. Finally, I think it was John S, said yes they did and also in the NC. Another time on a discussion of the difference in weather in different parts of PA. I live in Lehigh County now, stated that when I croosed the Blue Mountain into Carbon County the temp decreased five degrees and when going into the Poconos it decreased another five degrees. You friend RSB, jumped all over me again, he said that was impossible and couldn't be true. Finally someone that was also from the area, confirmed what I said. That was the end of the Almight RSB, but don't ever expect him to admit he was wrong. The way I see it with you and your two buddies, RSB is using the three of you to try and get those that disagree with PGC into an argument to get thrown off this site. I'm happy to see the game plan isn't working and you look like a fool, with your white dead talking horse. I think your father spared the rod and ruined the child. Where did you come up with that BS? At this point I don’t k now if you are just seriously confused about what was posted and by whom, if you dream things and think they are reality, have reached serious senility, or if you are nothing more then a malicious liar. What I do know is that I never challenged anyone about deer being restocked in this state. I have know for many decades that the deer were almost no existent by the end of the eighteen hundreds and that deer were brought in and stocked in this state. In fact I have seen the pictures of those deer being stocked and even have some of the data on how many in the various counties. I also know that would never challenge a person over temperature changes from area to another. I see major temperature changes all the time right here in this area. I can drive from the bottom to the top of the mountain and see not only a major temperature change but go from no snow to several inches of snow. There are time when I can look out my windows and see bare ground all around and by simply looking across the valley at the facing mountain side and see the snow line half way up the mountain. I have driven on dry roads and headed up that mountain and within five minutes have driven into road conditions that had traffic at a stand still due to snow and ice. If you can find where I made the comments you claim I did how about you copy and pasting them over for all to see. You can’t do that though because such comments don’t exist. Perhaps your dad didn’t teach to be as honorable as you claim but in my effort to give you the benefit of the doubt, I will concede that perhaps you really are just becoming extremely confused in your senior years. R.S. Bodenhorn i have dates on that too.;) |
RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
ORIGINAL: Coalcracker ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter I don't defend Bluebird or anyone else that keeps records and questions RSB's. My father taught me to have respect for people, unlike you and RSB, I have no respect for you or RSB, because neither of youshow respect to others, therefore you deserve non in return. I don't discuss my independent thought much lately, guess I'm still shell shocked from that PGC site, express a view and you have 20 PGC jumping all over you. The way I see it with you and your two buddies, RSB is using the three of you to try and get those that disagree with PGC into an argument to get thrown off this site. I'm happy to see the game plan isn't working and you look like a fool, with your white dead talking horse. I think your father spared the rod and ruined the child. What IS most aggravating to most folks here, is that no thread is safe from Bluebird and company'sBS hijackings. Post a pic of a nice buck.... BB will post an anti AR rant. Post a message about CWD and BB will turn it into an arguement about HR. Ask about hunting a particular area? BB will tell you HR wiped it out. Crossbows? BB's contribution there was another AR/HR brouhaha. A thread about muzzleloader season? BB jumped in with AR/HR there too.Even guys from other states have complained about his hijackings. When I bash the PGC, I do it for the SGL hunters, not for myself, I have my own land to hunt, which is posted and all the land around me, therefore HR has no effect on me. Just because I can go out hunting for two hours and see deer more than 50% of the time, is no reason to bury my head in the sand and say that hunting is great for everyone. |
RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
Here you go with the posts you said wouldn’t exist anymore. I have done all the work of digging things up for you to prove where I challenged you on the weather of your area or said that deer were never stocked. As I read the posts it seems it was you that was doing all of the challenging and I never claimed there couldn’t be those temperature variances and flat out told you right from the first of your post on the subject that in deed deer had been stocked and that I have pictures to prove it. So how about you pointing out what you claim I said? http://www.huntingpa.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=39932&Num ber=409155#Post409155 You can surely now find what you claim exists and copy and paste from there. Here is where you made that same claim about me stating deer weren’t stocked in this state two years ago and where I asked you to provide the posts back then. Just as now you couldn’t do it because it never happened. I think you just make things up, or perhaps you really are losing your mind. http://www.huntingpa.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=24104&Num ber=240681#Post240681 I have been back over all of you posts on that other sight and these are the only posts on those two subjects that I could find. If you can find any that support what you claim then post them. But, I know you can’t because they simply don’t exist and never did exist. Did you dream it or did you just make it up out maliciousness when you couldn't defend your opinions with facts anddecided to resort to lies in order to discredit another person? R.S. Bodenhorn |
RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
ORIGINAL: sproulman ORIGINAL: R.S.B. ORIGINAL: Coalcracker I had once posted on that PGC site, that my father told me that years ago, they had stocked deer from another state in the Poconos and cut off the bucks horn to save them from breeding. RSB and people like you, jumped all over me and said they never stocked deer in PA. Finally, I think it was John S, said yes they did and also in the NC. Another time on a discussion of the difference in weather in different parts of PA. I live in Lehigh County now, stated that when I croosed the Blue Mountain into Carbon County the temp decreased five degrees and when going into the Poconos it decreased another five degrees. You friend RSB, jumped all over me again, he said that was impossible and couldn't be true. Finally someone that was also from the area, confirmed what I said. That was the end of the Almight RSB, but don't ever expect him to admit he was wrong. The way I see it with you and your two buddies, RSB is using the three of you to try and get those that disagree with PGC into an argument to get thrown off this site. I'm happy to see the game plan isn't working and you look like a fool, with your white dead talking horse. I think your father spared the rod and ruined the child. Where did you come up with that BS? At this point I don’t k now if you are just seriously confused about what was posted and by whom, if you dream things and think they are reality, have reached serious senility, or if you are nothing more then a malicious liar. What I do know is that I never challenged anyone about deer being restocked in this state. I have know for many decades that the deer were almost no existent by the end of the eighteen hundreds and that deer were brought in and stocked in this state. In fact I have seen the pictures of those deer being stocked and even have some of the data on how many in the various counties. I also know that would never challenge a person over temperature changes from area to another. I see major temperature changes all the time right here in this area. I can drive from the bottom to the top of the mountain and see not only a major temperature change but go from no snow to several inches of snow. There are time when I can look out my windows and see bare ground all around and by simply looking across the valley at the facing mountain side and see the snow line half way up the mountain. I have driven on dry roads and headed up that mountain and within five minutes have driven into road conditions that had traffic at a stand still due to snow and ice. If you can find where I made the comments you claim I did how about you copy and pasting them over for all to see. You can’t do that though because such comments don’t exist. Perhaps your dad didn’t teach to be as honorable as you claim but in my effort to give you the benefit of the doubt, I will concede that perhaps you really are just becoming extremely confused in your senior years. R.S. Bodenhorn i have dates on that too.;) Yes, I have some of those old historic pictures as well. I think the first once were actually stocked here in Elk County as a mater of fact. I would have to double check the history of that though to be sureitis correct. 1906 - Deer first stocked (50 from Michigan). A total 1,192 were purchased and released by the agency from 1906 to 1925. R.S. Bodenhorn |
RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
ORIGINAL: R.S.B. Here you go with the posts you said wouldn’t exist anymore. I have done all the work of digging things up for you to prove where I challenged you on the weather of your area or said that deer were never stocked. As I read the posts it seems it was you that was doing all of the challenging and I never claimed there couldn’t be those temperature variances and flat out told you right from the first of your post on the subject that in deed deer had been stocked and that I have pictures to prove it. So how about you pointing out what you claim I said? http://www.huntingpa.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=39932&Num ber=409155#Post409155 You can surely now find what you claim exists and copy and paste from there. Here is where you made that same claim about me stating deer weren’t stocked in this state two years ago and where I asked you to provide the posts back then. Just as now you couldn’t do it because it never happened. I think you just make things up, or perhaps you really are losing your mind. http://www.huntingpa.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=24104&Num ber=240681#Post240681 I have been back over all of you posts on that other sight and these are the only posts on those two subjects that I could find. If you can find any that support what you claim then post them. But, I know you can’t because they simply don’t exist and never did exist. Did you dream it or did you just make it up out maliciousness when you couldn't defend your opinions with facts anddecided to resort to lies in order to discredit another person? R.S. Bodenhorn Looking forward to meeting you in person. |
RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
ORIGINAL: Coalcracker ORIGINAL: R.S.B. Here you go with the posts you said wouldn’t exist anymore. I have done all the work of digging things up for you to prove where I challenged you on the weather of your area or said that deer were never stocked. As I read the posts it seems it was you that was doing all of the challenging and I never claimed there couldn’t be those temperature variances and flat out told you right from the first of your post on the subject that in deed deer had been stocked and that I have pictures to prove it. So how about you pointing out what you claim I said? http://www.huntingpa.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=39932&Num ber=409155#Post409155 You can surely now find what you claim exists and copy and paste from there. Here is where you made that same claim about me stating deer weren’t stocked in this state two years ago and where I asked you to provide the posts back then. Just as now you couldn’t do it because it never happened. I think you just make things up, or perhaps you really are losing your mind. http://www.huntingpa.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=24104&Num ber=240681#Post240681 I have been back over all of you posts on that other sight and these are the only posts on those two subjects that I could find. If you can find any that support what you claim then post them. But, I know you can’t because they simply don’t exist and never did exist. Did you dream it or did you just make it up out maliciousness when you couldn't defend your opinions with facts anddecided to resort to lies in order to discredit another person? R.S. Bodenhorn Looking forward to meeting you in person.  Nothing but desperate weasel words from Coalcracker |
RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
ORIGINAL: Coalcracker ORIGINAL: R.S.B. Here you go with the posts you said wouldn’t exist anymore. I have done all the work of digging things up for you to prove where I challenged you on the weather of your area or said that deer were never stocked. As I read the posts it seems it was you that was doing all of the challenging and I never claimed there couldn’t be those temperature variances and flat out told you right from the first of your post on the subject that in deed deer had been stocked and that I have pictures to prove it. So how about you pointing out what you claim I said? http://www.huntingpa.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=39932&Num ber=409155#Post409155 You can surely now find what you claim exists and copy and paste from there. Here is where you made that same claim about me stating deer weren’t stocked in this state two years ago and where I asked you to provide the posts back then. Just as now you couldn’t do it because it never happened. I think you just make things up, or perhaps you really are losing your mind. http://www.huntingpa.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=24104&Num ber=240681#Post240681 I have been back over all of you posts on that other sight and these are the only posts on those two subjects that I could find. If you can find any that support what you claim then post them. But, I know you can’t because they simply don’t exist and never did exist. Did you dream it or did you just make it up out maliciousness when you couldn't defend your opinions with facts anddecided to resort to lies in order to discredit another person? R.S. Bodenhorn Looking forward to meeting you in person. Anyone, including you, can access and read or research exactly what I did but they can’t change anything that has been posted. All you have to do is go to the user list, select the poster you want to track and then click view their posts. You then have to go through them one at a time to read them and find what you are looking for. It took me hours to find those posts of yours and I looked at every one of your posts to make sure I didn’t miss anything. But, you can’t edit anything in another persons messages or even your own from those archives. R.S. Bodenhorn |
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if you can put a picture on here, that would be nice.
my dad said some of elk died from a tick they brought in with them. his dad unloaded the elk in renovo yards,his dad was murdered in renovo yard by a i-tie who wanted his job. the irishwere going to kill that i-tie but he left town in hurry.  |
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ORIGINAL: sproulman if you can put a picture on here, that would be nice. my dad said some of elk died from a tick they brought in with them. his dad unloaded the elk in renovo yards,his dad was murdered in renovo yard by a i-tie who wanted his job. the irishwere going to kill that i-tie but he left town in hurry.
I’ll have to look around and see if I can find some of them. They are probably in a box somewhere or the boxes of old magazines and journals. I will post one that was easy to find since it was on one of the deer management DVDs I use from time to time. I had to take a picture of the picture though to get it on here. I’ll have to look around and see if I can find some of them. They are probably in a box somewhere or the boxes of old magazines and journals. I will post one that was easy to find since it was on one of the deer management DVDs I use from time to time. I had to take a picture of the picture though to get it on here. http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s141/RBODENHORN/002-2.jpg R.S. Bodenhorn |
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ORIGINAL: R.S.B. ORIGINAL: Coalcracker ORIGINAL: R.S.B. Here you go with the posts you said wouldn’t exist anymore. I have done all the work of digging things up for you to prove where I challenged you on the weather of your area or said that deer were never stocked. As I read the posts it seems it was you that was doing all of the challenging and I never claimed there couldn’t be those temperature variances and flat out told you right from the first of your post on the subject that in deed deer had been stocked and that I have pictures to prove it. So how about you pointing out what you claim I said? http://www.huntingpa.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=39932&Num ber=409155#Post409155 You can surely now find what you claim exists and copy and paste from there. Here is where you made that same claim about me stating deer weren’t stocked in this state two years ago and where I asked you to provide the posts back then. Just as now you couldn’t do it because it never happened. I think you just make things up, or perhaps you really are losing your mind. http://www.huntingpa.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=24104&Num ber=240681#Post240681 I have been back over all of you posts on that other sight and these are the only posts on those two subjects that I could find. If you can find any that support what you claim then post them. But, I know you can’t because they simply don’t exist and never did exist. Did you dream it or did you just make it up out maliciousness when you couldn't defend your opinions with facts anddecided to resort to lies in order to discredit another person? R.S. Bodenhorn Looking forward to meeting you in person. Anyone, including you, can access and read or research exactly what I did but they can’t change anything that has been posted. All you have to do is go to the user list, select the poster you want to track and then click view their posts. You then have to go through them one at a time to read them and find what you are looking for. It took me hours to find those posts of yours and I looked at every one of your posts to make sure I didn’t miss anything. But, you can’t edit anything in another persons messages or even your own from those archives. R.S. Bodenhorn |
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everyone makes a MISTAKE,heck thats how i got to be a boss over 285 employees for 13 yrs:)until i refused to fire some employees because my new boss told me too.
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Your apology is accepted. Nor do I harbor hard feelings. That doesn’t mean I will not continue to point out other areas on which we seem to frequently disagree though. R.S. Bodenhorn |
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May be the little [&:]bird will read this and man up, but I bet Ihavea winning powerball ticket sooner.
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I heading out to buy a power ball ticket right now, so don't be to [&:].
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Looks like we have a little puppy dog begging for a bone. Begging isn't very becoming unless you are a dog.;)
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Based on your explaination and posts you have recovered, it is plain to see, that I was out of lineand wrongly accused you of a statement made by NUMICICE. To all the posters on here and especially you, I extend my humble apology.  |
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ORIGINAL: bawanajim May be the little [&:]bird will read this and man up, but I bet Ihavea winning powerball ticket sooner.
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ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter Based on your explaination and posts you have recovered, it is plain to see, that I was out of line and wrongly accused you of a statement made by NUMICICE. To all the posters on here and especially you, I extend my humble apology.
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ORIGINAL: bluebird2 ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter Based on your explaination and posts you have recovered, it is plain to see, that I was out of lineand wrongly accused you of a statement made by NUMICICE. To all the posters on here and especially you, I extend my humble apology.
Similarly, I posted harsh criticism toward RSB when I felt he misspoke. That doesnt mean I don't respect him and agree with him often. I simply disagreed very strongly on one issue. If, for example you had simply been a man and apologized for your completely unfounded plagarism accusationdirected at BWJ, I would have posted something similar. Alas, I can see that is not likely to happen. It's clear that your posts are destined to always be clouded with your warped agenda and your personal hatreds. |
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I wish you guys would slow down. I'm having a hard time keeping up.
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Alas, I can see that is not likely to happen. It's clear that your posts are destined to always be clouded with your warped agenda and your personal hatreds. |
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ORIGINAL: bluebird2 Alas, I can see that is not likely to happen. It's clear that your posts are destined to always be clouded with your warped agenda and your personal hatreds. "There you go again........." |
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Without a doubt Reagan was my favorite president also. but that doesn't change the fact that RSB intentionally posts false and misleading data in an attempt to deceive the hunters of PA and you blindly support his efforts.
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