2008 Big Game records
01-25-2009, 05:58 PM
#31
Fork Horn
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RE: 2008 Big Game records
ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter
It probably isn't quite fair. A big buck shot before AR was probably the result of a much longer odds situation. That fact also proves that AR has been a success.
ORIGINAL: Coalcracker
I don't think it's fair to compare these protected deer to those that were harvested in prior years, when AR wasn't in effect. raise the minimum points again and all these current record bucks will fall.
I don't think it's fair to compare these protected deer to those that were harvested in prior years, when AR wasn't in effect. raise the minimum points again and all these current record bucks will fall.
01-25-2009, 05:59 PM
#32
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RE: 2008 Big Game records
ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter
It probably isn't quite fair. A big buck shot before AR was probably the result of a much longer odds situation. That fact also proves that AR has been a success.
ORIGINAL: Coalcracker
I don't think it's fair to compare these protected deer to those that were harvested in prior years, when AR wasn't in effect. raise the minimum points again and all these current record bucks will fall.
I don't think it's fair to compare these protected deer to those that were harvested in prior years, when AR wasn't in effect. raise the minimum points again and all these current record bucks will fall.
01-26-2009, 12:16 PM
#33
Nontypical Buck
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RE: 2008 Big Game records
Dr Kroll did just that and your response was to say that he's biased
explained, explained, and explained again
01-26-2009, 01:13 PM
#35
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RE: 2008 Big Game records
ORIGINAL: the outsider
Help me understand what this means. Are you turning speculation on your part into fact?
ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter
It probably isn't quite fair. A big buck shot before AR was probably the result of a much longer odds situation. That fact also proves that AR has been a success.
ORIGINAL: Coalcracker
I don't think it's fair to compare these protected deer to those that were harvested in prior years, when AR wasn't in effect. raise the minimum points again and all these current record bucks will fall.
I don't think it's fair to compare these protected deer to those that were harvested in prior years, when AR wasn't in effect. raise the minimum points again and all these current record bucks will fall.
01-26-2009, 01:36 PM
#36
Nontypical Buck
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RE: 2008 Big Game records
The fact that most of the big bucks in this scoring session were killed 2+ years after AR would seem to imply that it's having a positive effect on the average antler size
01-26-2009, 01:54 PM
#37
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RE: 2008 Big Game records
ORIGINAL: bluebird2
The measuring session tells us nothing about the average rack size of 2.5+ buck, since we are not harvesting the 2.5+ buck that aren't AR legal like we did before ARs. The scoring session also didn't provide any data on the 2.5+ buck that were AR legal but not big enough to be entered in the scoring session.
The fact that most of the big bucks in this scoring session were killed 2+ years after AR would seem to imply that it's having a positive effect on the average antler size
01-26-2009, 02:01 PM
#38
Nontypical Buck
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RE: 2008 Big Game records
The fact that most of the big bucks in this scoring session were killed 2+ years after AR would seem to imply that it's having a positive effect on the average antler size
01-26-2009, 02:20 PM
#39
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RE: 2008 Big Game records
The same can be said about the 5% statewide decline in the breeding rates. It hasn’t been established yet that there really was a decline but even if there really was there are a number of issues that could very possibly lead to a decline besides the affects of antler restrictions.
01-26-2009, 03:38 PM
#40
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RE: 2008 Big Game records
The amount of hunters in support of antler restrictions in Pennsylvania is also increasing as can be seen in the following.
Hunter support for antler restrictions:
2002.…………………57 %
2007.…………………63 %
How many hunters were polled? 10%? 20%? 50%? Polled statistics are how accurate? Either way, this isn't an ovewhelming % of hunters that support AR's. And at this rate, it will take 25 more years to have 90% approval rate.
Hunter support for antler restrictions:
2002.…………………57 %
2007.…………………63 %
How many hunters were polled? 10%? 20%? 50%? Polled statistics are how accurate? Either way, this isn't an ovewhelming % of hunters that support AR's. And at this rate, it will take 25 more years to have 90% approval rate.