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bowtruck 01-21-2009 03:30 PM

RE: walkin in my woods
 
that to me would mean the deer are not there or close enough to find feed that
would worry me that stinks sproul

sproulman 01-21-2009 03:44 PM

RE: walkin in my woods
 

ORIGINAL: bowtruck

that to me would mean the deer are not there or close enough to find feed that
would worry me that stinks sproul
they were there,they are worried too, they took 45 tons of corn/alfalfa out.

they also farm it and have that whitetail stuff for 1/2 mile on pipeline on their property.



bowtruck 01-21-2009 04:16 PM

RE: walkin in my woods
 
maybe the deer dont like something or someone is bugging them i dunno

R.S.B. 01-21-2009 07:07 PM

RE: walkin in my woods
 

ORIGINAL: sproulman


ORIGINAL: bowtruck

i am seeing that deer have got into their herds and digging in snow for food. lots of winter left
for them
can you believe that we have a lot of feeders that NO deer are coming into them.

my friend has over 3000 acres, he just told me that he does not know where deer he had went but he is worried, none are coming to feeders.

How much snow do you have?

The deer in this area have mostly pulled down into the valleys and wintering grounds now. A little over a week ago I could find lot of deer sign on the high ground but now there is almost none in those same areas.

The only deer I could find on the high ground today were a few in one area that had just been cut within the past couple weeks with lots of fresh tree tops on the ground as browse.

R.S. Bodenhorn

sproulman 01-21-2009 07:29 PM

RE: walkin in my woods
 
8 inchs in mountains .

if you enter renovo, my friend owns the mountain above railroad yard .

yes, his feed is on top and his fields areon top.

the doe and her 2 fawns have not returned to my feeder in 2 weeks in my yard.

not a sign of them.

squirewals stopped coming to my feeders also for at least a week.

what a winter,game is acting different than most are used too.

i will be hunting grouse on friday, will get report of what i see,i think grouse is in until sat.

bowtruck 01-22-2009 02:16 AM

RE: walkin in my woods
 
I live on a mt top and have snow and the deer are still around atleast was 2 day ago

R.S.B. 01-22-2009 05:52 AM

RE: walkin in my woods
 

ORIGINAL: bowtruck

I live on a mt top and have snow and the deer are still around atleast was 2 day ago

How much snow do you have and is there food and thermal cover available?

The deer here didn’t usually start pulling off of the high ground until we have about a foot of snow. Even then there are some exceptions, as those a saw yesterday, where they had a good supply of browse next to a large laurel bed. I suspect that even those ones will come off of the top though if we get much more snow or the winter becomes prolonged.

Take a look at the ridge tops or plateaus and then go look in the pine/hemlock/rhododendron river and creek bottoms. Compare the numbers of tracks and deer sign you see between the two areas. That will tell you if your deer are being stressed by the winter conditions and if they can use all of the habitat available to them.

There are a lot of variables but in general once the snows get deep most of the deer, and even the turkeys, leave the high ground and move into the thermal protected low lands and wintering grounds habitats. That is just as nature intended. The only time that is a problem is when there are more deer arriving then those wintering grounds can adequately keep fed and in a healthy condition. When that happens you can end up with some winter mortality and what is even worse, an extremely low fawn survival rate the next spring.

R.S. Bodenhorn

R.S.B. 01-22-2009 06:00 AM

RE: walkin in my woods
 

ORIGINAL: sproulman

8 inchs in mountains .

if you enter renovo, my friend owns the mountain above railroad yard .

yes, his feed is on top and his fields areon top.

the doe and her 2 fawns have not returned to my feeder in 2 weeks in my yard.

not a sign of them.

squirewals stopped coming to my feeders also for at least a week.

what a winter,game is acting different than most are used too.

i will be hunting grouse on friday, will get report of what i see,i think grouse is in until sat.

Yes the squirrels stopped coming to my bird feeders for the past couple of weeks too. That is normal when it gets really cold. They will get into a hollow tree or other protected area in a tree and become semi-dormant for extended periods of extremely cold weather. When we get a run of warm weather again those squirrels will be back to the feeders though.

R.S. Bodenhorn

DougE 01-22-2009 06:04 AM

RE: walkin in my woods
 
I had to run out to mountain run around lunch time yesterday.There were tracks all over that bottom.Yes,it's all state forest.

bowtruck 01-22-2009 12:19 PM

RE: walkin in my woods
 
rsb we have 8 inches or so of snow ice underneath just was outthere tracks all over


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