RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 

To get back on the topic of this thread, it looks like at least one part ofour management plan is a big success if we measure it by hunter satisfaction.

RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 

Obviously you don't understand basic math any better than RSB. The sample bias is still in favor of the WMU's with the highest breeding rates just as it was before the breeding rates started to decrease. In order to produce a significant decrease in breeding rates you had to cut the high rate areas in half and double the low rate areas, but that did not happen in the real world where I obtained the data.

The simple fact is neither you or RSB can provide a logical explanation for why breeding rates decreased , but I have shown conclusively it was not due to a shift in sample sizes and locations.

RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 

All you have shown conclusively is that you are willing to repeat yourself over and over even though you can't back up your claim. If you have any real documentation, please post it. Otherwise, those of us who can read know who is making unsupported claims here. I'm not gonna play did not did to with you!


I think it's now appropriate to drag this old nag out again.....

RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 

I provided the data to support my position and all you provided is a bogus example using bogus numbers and pictures of dead horses.

At least RSB was smart enough to drop out of this debate so he wouldn't have to admit he was wrong and you should have followed his example.

RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 

BB2: Moderators were just kidding when they said an award will be given to whomever makes the most posts in a 30 day period.

RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 

That's pretty funny since I just won third prize in a contest on another message board where the number of entries were based on the number of posts each MB member made during a specified period. i'm looking forward to receiving my new ML and game calls in the near future.

RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 

oh boy

RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 

No, BTB says it is Blueboy or that other word he uses a lot.

RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 

I haven’t dropped out at all.

I have provided the correct answer and as has been pointed out several times all you have done is post an outlandish example where it proved you had posted data that was both wrong and misleading.

Now you post data that is, as BTBowhunter pointed out, is an apples to oranges comparison and expect people to just accept your analogy of it. I would certainly hope not.

Once the law suit you and your buddies are trying to float are a thing of the past I suspect additional data on this topic will be forthcoming. The fact is you really don’t even know which areas of the state really influence the sample sizes today compared to the past let alone which had or have the highest or lowest breeding rates.
You simply make far to many assumptions about way too many things of which you know very little about, and that is about all I can say on the topic for the time being.

But, no matter how you look at it the antler restrictions are here to stay and gaining in hunter support so the buck/doe ratios are probably going to stay relatively stable and might even further improve in the future. As for the deer populations I am sure they are going to continue with their up and down trends to match the environmental conditions, both good and bad. I am also sure that no matter how high they would get there would still be hunters complaining that there were not deer. I am also sure that the professionals will continue to do the very best job possible to manage our resources for the best possible benefit of the future in spite of all of the detractors like you and the rest of the Uninformed Silly People or your law suits.

We will continue to educate those that can be educated the same as we will continue to expose those that promote misguided agendas and missions intending to undermine sound scientific management of our resources. We will do that as a commitment to the future and the best possible hunting for today and tomorrow.

So, you can bet that I am not dropping out until I also drop over never to rise again.

R.S. Bodenhorn

RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 

I'll have to get the link to the N.Y. report of A/R, they tell it like it is with no spin at all.