How sad hunting is becoming...
#21
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,879
RE: How sad hunting is becoming...
Am I happy with the direction things are going ,of course not ,but thats no reason to make up conspiracy theories about government agency's trying to ruin your lives. There are still enough deer out there that any one that wants to kill one and puts the time and effort required, will kill one.
There are roughly 924K hunters and less than 1M PS deer, so there aren't enough deer for everyone to kill one ,especially since some hunters shoot 5 or 6 /yr. The sustainable harvest is less than 350K deer/yr. That means over 450K hunters won't harvest a deer no matter how much they scout, how far they travel or how hard they hunt!!!
#22
RE: How sad hunting is becoming...
ORIGINAL: bluebird2
There are roughly 924K hunters and less than 1M PS deer, so there aren't enough deer for everyone to kill one ,especially since some hunters shoot 5 or 6 /yr. The sustainable harvest is less than 350K deer/yr. That means over 450K hunters won't harvest a deer no matter how much they scout, how far they travel or how hard they hunt!!!
Am I happy with the direction things are going ,of course not ,but thats no reason to make up conspiracy theories about government agency's trying to ruin your lives. There are still enough deer out there that any one that wants to kill one and puts the time and effort required, will kill one.
There are roughly 924K hunters and less than 1M PS deer, so there aren't enough deer for everyone to kill one ,especially since some hunters shoot 5 or 6 /yr. The sustainable harvest is less than 350K deer/yr. That means over 450K hunters won't harvest a deer no matter how much they scout, how far they travel or how hard they hunt!!!
Every year I read about some numb nuts that bags his first buck after hunting for twenty five years,First off the purchase of a hunting license does not make one a deer hunter,nor does it decrease ones ineptness.
And if you can't get it done in five years then just maybe your more suited to be a golfer.
#23
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,879
RE: How sad hunting is becoming...
Approx. 1 out of nine hunters harvested a buck this year, so the average hunter would harvest a buck once every 9 years. Now if you subtract the archery buck kill, the success rate for rifle hunters would even be lower.
#24
RE: How sad hunting is becoming...
Once again you are shuffling the numbers, not every one that buys a license is a deer hunter,or hunts deer at all.
I know several older guys who only shoot woodchucks during the summer and squirrels in the early fall,they can't take the cold or drag deer out of the woods.
And others like myself that shoot bucks with alarming frequency.
I know several older guys who only shoot woodchucks during the summer and squirrels in the early fall,they can't take the cold or drag deer out of the woods.
And others like myself that shoot bucks with alarming frequency.
#25
RE: How sad hunting is becoming...
ORIGINAL: bawanajim
Once again you are shuffling the numbers, not every one that buys a license is a deer hunter,or hunts deer at all.
I know several older guys who only shoot woodchucks during the summer and squirrels in the early fall,they can't take the cold or drag deer out of the woods.
And others like myself that shoot bucks with alarming frequency.
Once again you are shuffling the numbers, not every one that buys a license is a deer hunter,or hunts deer at all.
I know several older guys who only shoot woodchucks during the summer and squirrels in the early fall,they can't take the cold or drag deer out of the woods.
And others like myself that shoot bucks with alarming frequency.
#26
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 67
RE: How sad hunting is becoming...
ORIGINAL: bawanajim
Once again you are shuffling the numbers, not every one that buys a license is a deer hunter,or hunts deer at all.
I know several older guys who only shoot woodchucks during the summer and squirrels in the early fall,they can't take the cold or drag deer out of the woods.
And others like myself that shoot bucks with alarming frequency.
Once again you are shuffling the numbers, not every one that buys a license is a deer hunter,or hunts deer at all.
I know several older guys who only shoot woodchucks during the summer and squirrels in the early fall,they can't take the cold or drag deer out of the woods.
And others like myself that shoot bucks with alarming frequency.
#27
RE: How sad hunting is becoming...
ORIGINAL: petropedro
so your saying over half the hunting license that are sold the purchasers dont hunt deer? half a million is 500k that dont hunt deer and under 350k in deer are harvested by the other 500k hunters who do hunt deer?
ORIGINAL: bawanajim
Once again you are shuffling the numbers, not every one that buys a license is a deer hunter,or hunts deer at all.
I know several older guys who only shoot woodchucks during the summer and squirrels in the early fall,they can't take the cold or drag deer out of the woods.
And others like myself that shoot bucks with alarming frequency.
Once again you are shuffling the numbers, not every one that buys a license is a deer hunter,or hunts deer at all.
I know several older guys who only shoot woodchucks during the summer and squirrels in the early fall,they can't take the cold or drag deer out of the woods.
And others like myself that shoot bucks with alarming frequency.
#28
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 67
RE: How sad hunting is becoming...
ORIGINAL: bawanajim
I don't see where I said anything like what you heard.[8D]
ORIGINAL: petropedro
so your saying over half the hunting license that are sold the purchasers dont hunt deer? half a million is 500k that dont hunt deer and under 350k in deer are harvested by the other 500k hunters who do hunt deer?
ORIGINAL: bawanajim
Once again you are shuffling the numbers, not every one that buys a license is a deer hunter,or hunts deer at all.
I know several older guys who only shoot woodchucks during the summer and squirrels in the early fall,they can't take the cold or drag deer out of the woods.
And others like myself that shoot bucks with alarming frequency.
Once again you are shuffling the numbers, not every one that buys a license is a deer hunter,or hunts deer at all.
I know several older guys who only shoot woodchucks during the summer and squirrels in the early fall,they can't take the cold or drag deer out of the woods.
And others like myself that shoot bucks with alarming frequency.
#29
RE: How sad hunting is becoming...
I don't know how the number could ever be determined with out a separate buck tag,and you know that ain't happening. I would guess its between 10-20% if I had to venture a guess.[>:]
#30
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,879
RE: How sad hunting is becoming...
ORIGINAL: bawanajim
Once again you are shuffling the numbers, not every one that buys a license is a deer hunter,or hunts deer at all.
I know several older guys who only shoot woodchucks during the summer and squirrels in the early fall,they can't take the cold or drag deer out of the woods.
And others like myself that shoot bucks with alarming frequency.
Once again you are shuffling the numbers, not every one that buys a license is a deer hunter,or hunts deer at all.
I know several older guys who only shoot woodchucks during the summer and squirrels in the early fall,they can't take the cold or drag deer out of the woods.
And others like myself that shoot bucks with alarming frequency.