PA Regulations??
#91
Giant Nontypical
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From: PA.
ORIGINAL: Buck Hunter 1
Won't do it as poachers just get out of jail and hit the woods again. 2D has had major poaching problems and i think the PAPGC gives up on the frequent flyers cause they can't stop them. You can't get blood from a stone and if I got no money I become a hardship case. Revocation of a license means nothing to a poacher, it means something to people who are law abiding and make a stupid mistake. PAPGC is making money off those small violations faster than off major poaching. So who they gonna go after for a mistake and money????????????? Why do you think on the whole hunters do not have a good experience w/ the PAPGC? Because you are guilty or made to feel that way from the time they stop you to look at your tag!
Won't do it as poachers just get out of jail and hit the woods again. 2D has had major poaching problems and i think the PAPGC gives up on the frequent flyers cause they can't stop them. You can't get blood from a stone and if I got no money I become a hardship case. Revocation of a license means nothing to a poacher, it means something to people who are law abiding and make a stupid mistake. PAPGC is making money off those small violations faster than off major poaching. So who they gonna go after for a mistake and money????????????? Why do you think on the whole hunters do not have a good experience w/ the PAPGC? Because you are guilty or made to feel that way from the time they stop you to look at your tag!
#94
Nontypical Buck
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Is a contender a conceiled weapon?I would think that would be beat down in court if the guy was busted.Has he ever been pulled over with it in his posession while spotlighting?
If you're going to poach at night from a vehicle,what advantage to you have by using a contender?Why not just use a rifle.If you get pulled over and searched,both will easily be found.
It was good that the legislature turned over that stupid law,making it illegal to spot light while in possesion of a conceiled weapon.
If you're going to poach at night from a vehicle,what advantage to you have by using a contender?Why not just use a rifle.If you get pulled over and searched,both will easily be found.
It was good that the legislature turned over that stupid law,making it illegal to spot light while in possesion of a conceiled weapon.
#95
Giant Nontypical
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From: PA.
ORIGINAL: DougE
Is a contender a conceiled weapon?I would think that would be beat down in court if the guy was busted.Has he ever been pulled over with it in his posession while spotlighting?
If you're going to poach at night from a vehicle,what advantage to you have by using a contender?Why not just use a rifle.If you get pulled over and searched,both will easily be found.
It was good that the legislature turned over that stupid law,making it illegal to spot light while in possesion of a conceiled weapon.
Is a contender a conceiled weapon?I would think that would be beat down in court if the guy was busted.Has he ever been pulled over with it in his posession while spotlighting?
If you're going to poach at night from a vehicle,what advantage to you have by using a contender?Why not just use a rifle.If you get pulled over and searched,both will easily be found.
It was good that the legislature turned over that stupid law,making it illegal to spot light while in possesion of a conceiled weapon.
from what i hear, a poacher was pulled over for SPOTLIGHTING illegally after hrs.
i think rule says you cant have rifle in truck When spotlighting but you can carry A PISTOL.
NOW, i heard this poacher had a thompson contender and a PISTOL PERMIT.
IS THIS LEGAL, CORRECT ME IF WRONG.
douge,these poachers are way ahead of all of us ,they find a way around rules.

#96
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I agree that the poachers are scum and it's very hard to catch them.However,the guy would be poaching whether or not if he was allowed to carry a conceiled weapon.
If you look at the law,it really doesn't define specifically what a conceiled weapon is.i would think that a WCO would be able to charge a guy and argue in court that a scoped contender is not a conceiled weapon.
If you look at the law,it really doesn't define specifically what a conceiled weapon is.i would think that a WCO would be able to charge a guy and argue in court that a scoped contender is not a conceiled weapon.
#97
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poaching comments are funny on here. no one is going to go buy a crossbow just for poaching. they would not be any easier to poach a deer with than a regular bow. your not shooting a crossbow out of the window. you have to get out to have room to shoot it. poachers don't use high powered rifles for poaching either. 22s with subsonic ammo is the choice for serious poachers. out to45 yrds a head shot will drop them in their tracks. no noise to be heard, take gun home come back for deer. all this gibberish about poachers useing this and that is just gibberish. pro poachers know how to do it and do it right. they are way ahead of you all. don't even need a spotlight,cheap night vision scope and you have someone who would prob never get caught. how many roads or back roads you have drove down and never seen a car or between 8 and 5 working hrs? poaching isnt very hard to do if someone wanted to do it. how many deer does poachers take a year? not enough to even put a dent in the deer herd, like a penny dropped in a 55gal drum. not a dent. more deer are killed by cars than poachers. yes try to say these weapons will invite poachers is just excuses that people are making up to help try to stop the crossbow introduction. its to late,crossbows are coming and nothing anyone can do about it. its about time. we need to catch up with the rest of the states in modernized weapons and new rules and laws. i am tired of the 50s and 60 laws we still have. legalize all weapons for hunting. lets move forward into the future because the past is no longer here.
#98
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From: Ohio,mid
Here, here, petropedro. I applaud all the hunting groups that have moved in a forward directionto sharing the woods for more than just a solitary type of weapon hunting. I had a blast flinting this year and absolute blast. But i would not shut someone out for hunting an inline. What was the weapon of choice for poachers prior to the hated Xbow? Must have been an inline.
#99
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"no one is going to go buy a crossbow just for poaching."
Sure they will. And they would bereally stupidnot to. Its the perfect poaching tool. Of course I dont see it much better if they also decide to use it in a legal manner for half the time.
"they would not be any easier to poach a deer with than a regular bow."
Far easier to shoot. Far easier to use from a vehicle. Far easier period.
"your not shooting a crossbow out of the window. you have to get out to have room to shoot it. "
Better check your tape measure and measure most full sized vehicle windows! That is simply a false statement.
Crossbows are a poachers dream tool.
There are many maleffect to crossgun implementation and VERY few bright spots.
Bad: Loss of tradition, probably eventual shortening of seasons, less buck and lower age of bucks due to added buck harvest, more doe harvest, most likely more poaching though exact extent is debatable, brings in more slobs, more crowded woods in a time cherished for the peace andsolitude, causing rift among hunters, more mature bucks going nocturnal, loss of legislative voice in matters due to majority being xgun hunters like occurred in ohio...etc. etc. etc.
Good?:Pgc doesnt get spanked by a few legislators who want them, and xgun companies hit the financialjackpot.
Good? [:'(]
Sure they will. And they would bereally stupidnot to. Its the perfect poaching tool. Of course I dont see it much better if they also decide to use it in a legal manner for half the time.

"they would not be any easier to poach a deer with than a regular bow."
Far easier to shoot. Far easier to use from a vehicle. Far easier period.
"your not shooting a crossbow out of the window. you have to get out to have room to shoot it. "
Better check your tape measure and measure most full sized vehicle windows! That is simply a false statement.
Crossbows are a poachers dream tool.
There are many maleffect to crossgun implementation and VERY few bright spots.
Bad: Loss of tradition, probably eventual shortening of seasons, less buck and lower age of bucks due to added buck harvest, more doe harvest, most likely more poaching though exact extent is debatable, brings in more slobs, more crowded woods in a time cherished for the peace andsolitude, causing rift among hunters, more mature bucks going nocturnal, loss of legislative voice in matters due to majority being xgun hunters like occurred in ohio...etc. etc. etc.
Good?:Pgc doesnt get spanked by a few legislators who want them, and xgun companies hit the financialjackpot.
Good? [:'(]



