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RE: pa antler restrictions yes or no?
Thanks for posting your opinion based on EXPERIENCE over the years. If only those who are whining about AR would spend more time in the woods off-season and during and having had seen the changes taking place the good and the bad then they could also speak from experience instead of reciting PAGC "stats and reports". It gets me... some have no faith in AR yet they have faith in the PAGC to give verbatim dictation from their reports.In my life I have spent many more days in the woods than not in the woods and I see the herd decrease and I also see a higher percentage of larger buck now than before AR. I also work in a Taxidermy shop part time and have contact with more deer after harvestthan most who work for the Game Commission. I don't need a report to tell me what to think, I see the benefit of AR here as well as the other states I hunt. I agree with Sproul and whoever mentioned limiting jr. hunters to only2 non AR buck. Once those 2 bucks are shot than it's time to up the standard for youth. I take my fiance's boy out and he is not allowed to shoot anything under a 4pt for his first buck, the reason is... that what I shot for my first deer and i can't tell him to do what I didn't do myself.And the truth is he doesn't want to shoot spike bucks or even a 4 pt for that matter, he wants a 6 or better. Amazing to see a 12 year old have higher standards for himself when he has never shot a deer than older men who have killed numerous deer and still want to shoot whatever they see. I'm proud of him and I know he will kill nicer buck in his first few years than almost all of those who cry about having tohold out for an adult or larger racked deer.
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RE: pa antler restrictions yes or no?
Even with an antler restriction you have a very slim chance of harvesting a mature buck since your sights are on bare minimum requirements I pass up deer time after time till I find the buck I am hunting for but then again I put the time and effort into knowing what buck are in the area so I know which buck is the largest and pretty accurately judge how many deer are in the area and the ratio of buck to doe. |
RE: pa antler restrictions yes or no?
If only those who are whining about AR would spend more time in the woods off-season and during and having had seen the changes taking place the good and the bad then they could also speak from experience instead of reciting PAGC "stats and reports". Amazing to see a 12 year old have higher standards for himself when he has never shot a deer than older men who have killed numerous deer and still want to shoot whatever they see. I I see the benefit of AR here as well as the other states I hunt. |
RE: pa antler restrictions yes or no?
I think that there should be restrictions on the antlers. I would rather shoot a big buck than a small buck. Any Day!!!!!!
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RE: pa antler restrictions yes or no?
No one is forcing you to shoot a small buck. Prior to ARs hunters could choose to harvest any legal antlered buck that met their standards. Now hunters are forced to harvest buck based on the standards of those that value rack size above everything else including herd health. There is no biological or scientific justification for ARs.
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RE: pa antler restrictions yes or no?
I just finished reading an article in the July 2002 Game News written by PGC BiologistBrett Walligford. He states in the article that "we expect by 2003 hunters will see MORE and LARGER bucks than ever before".
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RE: pa antler restrictions yes or no?
Here is what Alt told C. Alsheimer,
Few have studied the antler restriction issue more than Pennsylvania ’s Dr. Gary Alt. His conclusions led to a statewide antler point restriction in 2002. “What we are trying to do is have a more natural antlered-buck-to-adult-doe-ratio and a more natural breeding ecology. We feel that reducing the number of adult does and increasing the antlered buck population is in the best interest of the deer resource,” he explains. “Scientists told us that to fix our Pennsylvania problem we needed to save half of our yearling bucks. This is why we collected information on 73,000 bucks in the four years prior to antler restrictions. We learned that in order to save half of the yearling bucks, the majority of counties in Pennsylvania needed to restrict the harvest of bucks with fewer than three points on a side. Had we not done the research on our yearlings, we wouldn’t have known this.” “Prior to antler restrictions, only about 50,000 Pennsylvania bucks survived the state’s annual deer season, and just one in one hundred survived to age four. With antler restrictions, we’ve been able to save 75,000 to 100,000 bucks the first year. “Launching 75,000 to 100,000 bucks into the next age class tripled the number of bucks age two or older,” notes Alt. “This tripled the number of bucks with eight or more points in just one year, so a by-product of antler restrictions is that hunters have been able to see more and bigger bucks. To offset the killing of less bucks we knew we needed to harvest more does by the same number and we’ve tried hard to accomplish this.” |
RE: pa antler restrictions yes or no?
ORIGINAL: 4evrhtn ORIGINAL: the outsider The biggest buck I ever shot in 2G was in 1990. And the year before that I passed on a 10 pt buck with an estimated 22" spread there because I didn't have a goodclear shot.Didn't want to take a chance on wounding it. Don't claim to pass up a 10 pt if you are admitting to wanting to shoot a spike or Y. You didn't have an opportunity to shoot the 10 point- tell it as it is. I commend you for not shooting and wounding the deer. Like I wrote above.. if you shoot the first bare minimum buck you won't shoot a big buck. Like I said, there were large bucks before the AR's. I went through a Game Commission road block in 1990, and the 10 pointer that I shot thatyear was aged at 3 1/2 years. |
RE: pa antler restrictions yes or no?
with ar i see bigger buck i didnt like them at first but now it doesnt bother me either way
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RE: pa antler restrictions yes or no?
I will work as hard as I can to preserve AR. No question of the benefit in my area.
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