4evrhtn

I had originally taken the first pic without the shell and my buddy and I walked away. He told me we need to get a pic with something showing the relation to the size. We walked back up and laid the shell beside the print and took the second pic. It is possible one of usor my dog disturbed the track when leaving the first time. I noticed this as well (on the toe print on far right side by shell) after I uploaded the pic to my laptop. The second photo was for the purpose of showing the size. The first was taken as "proof".

livbucks

I believe some are seeing what they claim. Is it possible that a escaped captive cat, that has a few skills, is wandering and giving the appearance of more cats? Who knows!

I have heard, not sure if true...that there are occasional bobcats with tails as log as 14 inches. And I have seen pictures of trapped Bobs that were almost a solid orangy colored with nary a pattern in their coat. Perhaps we are seeing some kind of hybrid super bobcat with cougar bloodlines. They say our yotes are part wolf so it could happen...right?

BTBowhunter

Absolutely correct. Bluebird is a lost cause. Those of us who debate him don't do it to convince him. That'd be like teaching the proverbial pig to sing. the only good readon for debating him is to point out his little head games so that others don't buy into his load of doo doo.

4evrhtn

I wish I could have been able to get someone else out there to check it out. I wonder what type of response time I would have gotten had I called the PAGC and asked to have a warden or someone come out and look into a MTN LION track. I'd probably still be waiting, I can never get anyone to answer the phone when I have called the PAGC.

I will be going back there this upcoming weekend and I am going to scout the area around the creek and areas where there might be undisturbed tracks. If I find one and can document it, I will try to cover it with a milk crate or something to preserve it. I know it is unlikely I will find more tracks but I will try. Maybe take the video camera.

bluebird2

Soil will compact very little if it is very wet or very dry. The soil in the pic wasn't very wet or the tires would have left ruts and it definitely wasn't very dry. Soil does not compact as it dries, but it does become more dense, but it is not due to compaction. Unless the ground froze and thawed before the cat made that track , it is highly unlikely to get such a well defined print from a cat in a tire track.

bluebird2

The next time you do that will be the first time.

mlo31351270

Yeah, Ijust found out he is a soil compaction expert. I usually try not to post much when he is involved in a conversation.

bluebird2

Try harder!!!

livbucks

His real name is CLIFF CLAVEN. He was wrong anyway. Soil does not become more dense as it dries. It becomes more solid, not more dense. There is less mass density when the moisture content is removed. We learned all this in like 8th Grade. What weighs more BB2....a ton of feathers or a ton of lead?

bluebird2

Apparently you flunked eighth grade just as you flunked your test of the PGC code. If the water molecules are removed from the soil by drying it becomes more dense as well as more solid. I learned that in kindergarten.