"I think the game commission needs to put together a advisory board .And the members should be real hunters, that actually get out and hunt. Not those commissioners that belong to huntin clubs and hunt stocked pens."

As opposed to the "citizen advisory committees" ! What a joke.They highly limit hunter participation and give others the say in deer management. Ecowieneys etc. Heck one pgc insider was even on the 2A committee! Allso is under consideration for theboard of commissioners!

Voted against the people the person interviewed!!Even though pgcs goal has been stabilization, and ehd RIPPED the herd in many areas of the wmu, She voted for herd decrease.....Of course. Thankfully they had to at the very least compromise because noone other than her and a friend wanted that goal.

I hunted WV in both bow and rifle season for many years and I agree 100%. I've never seen any studies on reporting rates in WV. Haven't hunted there lately but when I did, every deerwas suposed togo toa check station. yeah right! From what I saw with the locals down there, they might have had a reporting rate of 20-30% at the most. Of course, you could legally harvest up to 5 bucks a year there too!

Im sure there is alot of poaching going on in WV and Pa. But the bottom line is when I go down to WV next Monday I will see deer all over the place.I live at the same place in pa that I did 55 years ago. My old farm back then always held 35 to 50 deer . Today 3. And it is the same farm,.no homes or loss of acreage. I can Judge what I see right know.Pa stinks WV super. Maybe I left the big secret out.The past 5 years its been alot of pa hunters showing up down in WV.I have 105 acres to hunt if I want to in WV.Probably wont yet this year. My deer count is a estimated 23 doe and 11 buck.. One more year.By then the doe pop. should be over 30. 33 acres of standing eatable crops year round. I will create my own paradise and Alt aint invited to hunt either.

I know of a lot of people going out of state to hunt deer each year and not bothering to hunt here too much. In some areas, can't say I blame them. I really think the PGC needs to reavaluate their current system and make adjustments where they need to be adjusted most.

I think what the PGC did was force people to post their land if they haven't before.

I just wish they would get their head of their arse and go back to seperate seasons and do away with this early muzzleloader nonsense. Even if they would make it statewide that the first week is buck only and the second week is concurrent would help.

As I said before, I think our buck situation has improved tremendously with the antler restrictions. Antler restrictions can't hurt. But I think they've gone overboard with the doe harvest.

Antler restrictions can in fact hurt more than most hunters realize. First they reduce the buck harvest due to more bucks being lost to non-hunting mortality. Second, ARs reduce the number of OW doe so fewer fawns are recruited which means lower harvests. Third , ARs can result in high grading and smaller rack sizes. fourth, in the long run it has the potential to adversely effect the gene pool.

I agree I have no problems with antler restrictions. I practice that myself.Plus no fawns, yearlings or buttons. I would support a doe taken only with a bow rule. At least for a couple years till the herdstarts coming back.Some states have deer by bow only in some portions. We have to get out of the attitude that only what Pa does is right. There is some great rules going on in other parts of the country. Hey Pa people the earth is not flat ,we wont fall off if we cross the border for ideas.A program could be set upto let a farmer farm the open gamelands free.Build the food habitate.When the timber companies timber the gamelands set up a deal for them to open up 10 acres for every 100 for farming.
Where the deer pop is out of control because large land owners wont let people hunt.Alot of these people are not anti-hunters just want there privacy. Set up a program that would reinburse the land owner for allowing hunting The land owner could pick the amount of people they would allow. And a drawing could take place.All kinds of hunter friendly things could be done. I'm full of ideas.

The SGLs are SGL's because they aren't suitable to be farmland. If the PGC required loggers to prepare a 10 acre field for every 100 acres timbered, no logger in his right mind would bid on the contract.

This is why I nevertrusted harvest statistics. A guess at best.

Non hunting mortality existed before AR's and will exist no matter what.

Now you're trying tohave it both ways.According to hundreds of your past posts, you claim over and over we are way under MSY carrying capacity so for you to now to claim that AR reduces the number of OW doe is simply being hypocritical on your part.

High grading? You mean the disproven theory of one rogue biologist in one dubious study in a state very different frrom Pa that no credible wildlife biologist has supported?

Adversely affect the gene pool? You yourself said that high grading had nothing to do with genetics.So what evidence do you have thatAR's can hurt the gene pool?

The more bucks that are carried over the more that will die from non-hunting mortality , thus reducing the harvest.

That would only be true if the PGC agreed with me that the herd is below the MSY CC ,but they don't so you are wrong.
The theory of high grading has not been disproven as you claim and you can provide absolutely nothing to show it has been disproven. ARs in PA were established based on computer models from Miss. that were later proven to be flawed.