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In 2000 the archery buck harvest success rate was 13.5% and in 2005 it was 11.8%. So over the same period the rifle buck harvest decreased by 7% the archery success rate only decreased by 1.7%. Now factor in the fact that archers like Livbucks only shoot 10 pts in archery and can still fill their buck tags the concurrent season, which group of hunters do you think has the advantage?

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Thanks!

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That is an interesting theory and that is all that it is. You have no way of knowing how many hunters were affected by harvesting an antlerless deer the first day and I am not sure you are correct that hunters were limited to one deer/day. As i recall in 2005 the deer had to be tagged and removed before another deer could be harvested ,but i could be wrong about that. In any case, we harvest about 80% of our legal buck with or without a concurrent season, so that is not an issue.

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Um... lets see. A high powered rifle bulletleaves the weapon at velocities ranging from around 23-2400 to over 3000fps. Most deer rifles are equipped with scopes that magnify the target anywhere from 2 to 12 times. The rifle can kill by shock as well as by hemmorage or pnuemothorax which greatly increases the practical kill zone on a deer. The average deer rifle is easily effective at 150-300 yards even in the hands of relative beginners and shooters who don't practice more than a handful of shots per year.

As for the bow, it propells its' projectile at roughly 175-300 fps. No practical telescopic sights are available, it relies on either hemmorage of pneumothorax to kill a deer so the taget kill zone is about half that of a rifle. It must be drawn and held in the presence of the game and it's effective range is less than 50 yards and realistically should be confined to shots of less than 30 in most cases.

To anyone who has to ask the question you posed, I beleive Bill Engval has your answer.....


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RE: PA deer Quizz
 

Thats easy...rifle hunters.
They spend considerably less time afield per success than bowhunters.
Many rifle hunters' seasons can be measured in hours.

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While the facts you posted may be true , it still doesn't change the fact that in 2005 the success rate for archery buck hunters was 11.8% and the success rate for rifle hunters was 12.5%
In 2005,269K archers got to hunt for at least 120K legal buck ,while around 900K rifle hunters got to hunt for 90K legal buck. Rifle hunter had two weeks to harvest a buck while archers had at least 12 weeks. So which group had the advantage?

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An interesting quandary exists also, that bowhunter buck success eliminates hunters from the rifle buck success statistics, but the same is NOT true in the opposite. So you are eliminating all of the bow successes from the rifle hunter tags available. The available Bow tags remain constant with no such elimination. Should a person exert the effort to pursue the time demanding aspect of archery, they should by rights be afforded a separate buck tag.

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Bluebird, the reason Dr. Gary Alt chose the AR plan with extensive deer management permits was because the buck to doe ratio in Pennsylvania was so out of whack. Don't know where you got your number from, but it is incorrect. Do not portend to compare the habitat of Mississippi with northern states. To do so would be ignorant. Mississippi habitat has a much longer growing season and its soil is lush with the vitamins and nutrients that generate much better antler development. Therefore highgrading absolutely comes earlier down there. Not sure if you would consider this a link but Dr. Demarais and I discussed this a few weeks ago in Chattanooga , Tennessee at the QDMA convention.
(perhaps pristeen was a littleextreme as far a terminology but my point was that the habitat in Mississippi is a lot better then Pennsylvania or NY)

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That stat is mathematically impossible. Check my earlier post, amend your figures and come back.

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It is easy to make that claim ,but it is not easy to provide the data to support it. No one knows how many hours archers spend /harvest and they don't know how many hours rifle hunters spend /harvest. Does the average archer hunt all day or does he hunt for a couple of hours in the morning or evening? Which hunter covers more ground and exerts more physical effort? the archer that sits in a stand or the rifle hunter that still hunts or conducts drives for others? Archers have the opportunity to hunt the entire PS herd, but rifle hunters get to hunt what is left after archery, the early ML season and the early jr/sr. early season.