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Truth be known,,,the bucks have no more chance of getting trophy sized now than they did before AR & HR,,,it's all a buncha BS to sell to the uninformed,,,sure,,you shoot more six points and 8 points now than ya did before,,but the racks are spindly,,,and the meat is tuffer en a pound of shoe leather,,,deer need food to grow to their potential,,,not just corn,,,oats,,,soybean,,but high protein feed not generally planted by the local farmer,,,and whats more,,,deer need good genetics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pa. is working with a shot out herd of deer,,,the genetics just are not there. I have land in Pa. that i hunt and yes,,,we have seen some nicer bucks,,,very few,,,but we have seen em,,,then hunting season comes along and guess what,,,killed,,first week of archery season,,"Gone with the wind". I dont claim to have the answers,,,but i claim to hunt land here in Va. with good genetics and it's a whole different deer season than you can ever believe. I know the AR guys are gonna wanna hang me fer this post,,but in time they will see,,,,well,,,maybe,,,AR's have been in place for what seems to be a lifetime,,,and guess what,,,nothing has changed,,(except for deer sightings are way down)

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WOW :eek:

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"killed the first week of archery season" ????? Wow. Sounds to me like someone beat you to the cookie jar... Not a bowhunter, I take it....

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Livbucks,

I know you are thinking exactly what I am. [&:]I don't know if it's funny or sad.

Last I checked, my drivers license said PA. The GPS says I'm in PA, but I must be in a different PA than the one these guys are coming from. [&:][&:]:eek:

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I agree . Allegheny Co. is an entirely different world than 2G. If the sustainable harvest rate in 2B was less than 3 DPSM as it is in 2G, a lot of the 2B guys would be singing a different tune.

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bb2,
I own a car. They let me drive outside of allegheny co. I don't consider ANYTHING I see or experience in 2B when I talk about hunting because I know its an apples to oranges debate. I visit and hunt enough areas of this state(Except the far eastern)that I feel my comments are valid.

Please stop whining about how bad 2G is. It's like those folkskept clinging to the 70's steelers up until they won again a few years ago. It really makes you look pathetic.

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I am not whining about 2G. I don't hunt there and i have no intention of hunting there. The PGC can reduce the herd to 5 DPSM and it wouldn't effect me one bit. But, it would effect thousands of my fellow hunters just like the previous herd reduction effected them and therefore I feel it is a reason to be concerned.

BTW, why would you do a lot of traveling outside of 2B to hunt when the harvest rate in 2B is 25 DPFSM compared to 3 DPFSM in 2G?

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We leave 2B every year to go to 2F for first day of buck.
Here is '06....50% success rate. Well, I'd say the trip was 100% successful. Then again, even if we see no deer, we call it a success.



These bucks were taken second day actually, after all the one day yawhoo's had packed it in and went home to complain there were no bucks.
How many aliases has bb2, dd, Bh, etc had anyway?

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Are you telling us you have a hard time killing a buck in 2B during archery ,so you travel to 2F to get your buck during the concurrent season?

BTW, if you believe that not seeing deer is a successful hunt , you have a unique definition of success.

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Ryan, We've both been here, well Bob (BTB)too, for a long time, under our original handles, debating the same things over and over. I don't know about you, but I don't have the energy for it anymore. I lost my desire to bang my head on brick walls lately. ;)
You have a great, safe year Bud!
Greg