PA antler restriction
08-27-2008, 08:15 AM
#291
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RE: PA antler restriction
ORIGINAL: bluebird2
Obviously, I am simply pointing out that the 1.5 bucks saved by AR don't get a lot smarter as BT claimed and therefore only 20% of the bucks saved by AR , survive to become 3.5 buck.
Do you have a problem with that?
Obviously, I am simply pointing out that the 1.5 bucks saved by AR don't get a lot smarter as BT claimed and therefore only 20% of the bucks saved by AR , survive to become 3.5 buck.
Do you have a problem with that?
Assuming for a moment that the 20% is anywhere close,
20% is way better odds than they used to have. Thanks for making my point.
08-27-2008, 09:41 AM
#293
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RE: PA antler restriction
Why oh why do I do this?
It's the proverbial train wreck....I just can't help but click on this thread, and then I feel ashamed for doing so moments after I read it[&:]
It's the proverbial train wreck....I just can't help but click on this thread, and then I feel ashamed for doing so moments after I read it[&:]
08-27-2008, 10:36 AM
#294
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RE: PA antler restriction
Please tell us where you got your 20% number.
Assuming for a moment that the 20% is anywhere close,
20% is way better odds than they used to have. Thanks for making my point.
Assuming for a moment that the 20% is anywhere close,
20% is way better odds than they used to have. Thanks for making my point.
08-27-2008, 11:00 AM
#296
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RE: PA antler restriction
ORIGINAL: bluebird2
No, that is not true. The bucks saved by ARs need to survive non-hunting mortality before they can survive hunting season. So the two subjects are directly related.
No, that is not true. The bucks saved by ARs need to survive non-hunting mortality before they can survive hunting season. So the two subjects are directly related.
http://www.pgc.state.pa.us/pgc/lib/pgc/reports/2005_wildlife/21009-04.pdf
08-27-2008, 01:24 PM
#297
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RE: PA antler restriction
The point is that even though they suffer low non-hunting mortality ,only 20% survive to become 3.5 's ,so very buck ever reach 4.5 year that it takes the average spike to catch up with the avg. 1.5 6 or 8 pt. and that's why ARs result in high grading.
08-27-2008, 01:32 PM
#298
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RE: PA antler restriction
ORIGINAL: bluebird2
The point is that even though they suffer low non-hunting mortality ,only 20% survive to become 3.5 's ,so very buck ever reach 4.5 year that it takes the average spike to catch up with the avg. 1.5 6 or 8 pt. and that's why ARs result in high grading.
The point is that even though they suffer low non-hunting mortality ,only 20% survive to become 3.5 's ,so very buck ever reach 4.5 year that it takes the average spike to catch up with the avg. 1.5 6 or 8 pt. and that's why ARs result in high grading.
08-27-2008, 01:54 PM
#300
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RE: PA antler restriction
Before AR's even fewer got to that age. How you can translate that into a deterioration of antler size over time is just ridiculous.
What happens if you cut all the oak,cherry maple and ash from a stand and leave the beech,gum, striped maple ,red maple and hop hornbeam. What happens is you have high graded the stand and the remaining stand will have little or no value.