RE: A friendly deer camp debate...about PA regs
 

Gerrmain,like Istated earlier,I'm sure some places have been overharvested.This is especially true in easily accessible areas closer to areas that are heavily populated.No way did the dee get overharvested around Rockton mountain or in the vast wilderness areas of 2G.the habitat just can't support large numbers of deer anymore and it makes no sense to add more deer to those areas.

I huntedin the Elk state forest near Sinnemahoning this past saturday.I saw tons of tracks and the biggest buck I've ever laid eyes on.Not another human track to be found.

RE: A friendly deer camp debate...about PA regs
 

Well!!! once again we have thrashed this topic for ten full pages and as far as im concerned i will agree to disagree. The 3 months that i spent in Pa. this year traveling back and forth on I-80 from the State College area to dubois wasabove and beyond proof to me that the PGC and the "i have to believe it's so" hunters in Pa. just dont give a flying F@!kabout deer hunting anymore. And what really bites me in the a$$ is,,,what state in this union was more well known for it's hunting than Pa,,, and the amount of hunters that particapated every year? We have beat this topic up for 5 maybe 6 years and i look for it to go on that much longer,,with alot less hunters buying their liscense. On the brighter side tho,,,our typing skills will probably be much better than our hunting skills

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Maybe that's why you saw lots of tracks and a huge buck Doug.No human prints equals little hunting pressure right?Rockton and the Parker dam area has very easy access with roads everywhere.Yes the areas were overpopulated before HR but after HR started is when the deer numbers to a nose dive.Coincidence?

RE: A friendly deer camp debate...about PA regs
 

Nope,you're wrong.People do care and they're trying to fix the problem.When you travel from State college to Dubois on I80,you travel through the middle of some of the worst and most overbrowsed areas on the east coast.There's several Habitat tours within a short drive from Dubois each year.You should really attend one and try to explain to the professionals exactly what they're doing wrong.I tried that myself about 6 years ago and fell flat on my face each time.There's reams and reams of solid indisputablescientific evidence that proves how bad the deer impacted the habitat inthat part of Pa.The hunting is still excellent in that area.You just have to hunt where the deer should actually be.

RE: A friendly deer camp debate...about PA regs
 

New here, was a member about 7 to 4 years ago. Bawanajim is right on the money with what he is saying about Crawford County. I live and hunt there.

RE: A friendly deer camp debate...about PA regs
 

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RE: A friendly deer camp debate...about PA regs
 

Rich,there's deer there because it's one of the few places with any browse and cover in that area.It's steep and brutal to hunt.In fact,you really can only hunt one bench and the top of the mountain.The sides are way too steep to hunt but the deer go over the edges to bed and you'll never get at them.The guy that lives at the bottom of the hillis constantly complaining about the doe slaughter.No way could hunters have even the slightest impact on the herd in that area and it goes like that for miles and miles.I have a buddy that has a camp right next to that guy and I don't remember the last time any of them killed a deer.

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Doug I won't even go to where you got your numbers.I live here, I hunt here ,I own land here Go to the meat wrapers go to the taxi's go to anyone but your fan club the PGC and maybe you would understand the lack of support they recieve here.

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Doug do you happen to know what year the PGC started to use estimates for harvest numbers and not the actual returned cards?[/align]

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It's all aboutaccess boys.Where land is open to unlimited hunters there's not going to be alot of deer.Places where hunter numbersare limited and managed will have good numbers of deer.I've seen this time and time again,north,south,east,and inbetween.