PA News - USP Files Permanent Injunction against PGC
#71
Giant Nontypical
Joined: Dec 2005
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From: PA.
ORIGINAL: NorthPA
Pahick, I don’t see it as an argument. I see it as you making off the wall claims and accusations and me posting the fact and truth and you not wanting to face up to those.
I’ve provided all sorts of facts for you.
You accuse the PGC of guessing and yet you’re guessing at what the “majority” thinks.
If the majority is in agreement with you then why did the doe licenses sell out so fast in some WMU’S?
Why are license sales still strong, even though all across North America they have declined worst than here?
That should tell you that the “majority” still have a positive outlook and still want to hunt does.
A good look at how you think, is this ridiculous statement you made: “I simply cannot believe you live there, or even have any direct contact with the area. You sound more like a PGC employee than anything.”
You cannot believe it only because you “don’t want to believe it.”
If you are familiar with the Mansfield area, you only need to go a little further east to find me. My eye doctor is in Mansfield, (Stroehecker), I often eat breakfast at grandma’s in Mansfield, and sometimes lunch at the Vets Club in Troy. Warner tractor in E. Troy does the work on my track loader and backhoe. Oh yeah my log splitter is getting warranty work by the E. Smithfield Hardware right now.
I am not and have never been a PGC employee. For a while in the 70’s my attitude was just like yours is. I hunted hard and saw few deer for a few years in a row on SGL 12 and 36. I whined and complain and even wrote letters to the PGC. Then I “grew up” and learned a little bit about wildlife and hunting instead of relying on luck, at the same spot, all the time.
You really should make an effort to get away from your little circle of unhappy friends. Go to Judson’s Feed Mill in Columbia Crossroads and talk to those guys or to Columbia Crossroads Equipment, (My Massey Ferguson Tractor dealer) and ask those guys how the hunting is.
You’ll find that there are very many who support real deer management and who look forward to good hunting year after year.
Be the guy who has the stuff to actually look at both sides.
Pahick, I don’t see it as an argument. I see it as you making off the wall claims and accusations and me posting the fact and truth and you not wanting to face up to those.
I’ve provided all sorts of facts for you.
You accuse the PGC of guessing and yet you’re guessing at what the “majority” thinks.
If the majority is in agreement with you then why did the doe licenses sell out so fast in some WMU’S?
Why are license sales still strong, even though all across North America they have declined worst than here?
That should tell you that the “majority” still have a positive outlook and still want to hunt does.
A good look at how you think, is this ridiculous statement you made: “I simply cannot believe you live there, or even have any direct contact with the area. You sound more like a PGC employee than anything.”
You cannot believe it only because you “don’t want to believe it.”
If you are familiar with the Mansfield area, you only need to go a little further east to find me. My eye doctor is in Mansfield, (Stroehecker), I often eat breakfast at grandma’s in Mansfield, and sometimes lunch at the Vets Club in Troy. Warner tractor in E. Troy does the work on my track loader and backhoe. Oh yeah my log splitter is getting warranty work by the E. Smithfield Hardware right now.
I am not and have never been a PGC employee. For a while in the 70’s my attitude was just like yours is. I hunted hard and saw few deer for a few years in a row on SGL 12 and 36. I whined and complain and even wrote letters to the PGC. Then I “grew up” and learned a little bit about wildlife and hunting instead of relying on luck, at the same spot, all the time.
You really should make an effort to get away from your little circle of unhappy friends. Go to Judson’s Feed Mill in Columbia Crossroads and talk to those guys or to Columbia Crossroads Equipment, (My Massey Ferguson Tractor dealer) and ask those guys how the hunting is.
You’ll find that there are very many who support real deer management and who look forward to good hunting year after year.
Be the guy who has the stuff to actually look at both sides.
DOE licenses went because hunters want MEAT..
look at rabbits here, hunters killed them off and never left some for next year..
go to sgl252,miles of the best habitat but very few rabbits, no deer,no squireaals,no grouse, few pheasants,no turkeys..
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?
hunters cleaned them out...
same with DOE..people will hunt until there is not 1 deer left..
i am not in majority, for sure..
i dont kill doe in wmu2g but i do get a doe permit, i feel it keeps 1 deer alive...
our whole family gets doe permits BUT we dont use them....
there are lots like us ,health, age.work,no doe ,they dont even use permits..
this is why the real meat hunters get 5 doe each, i know many that did..
they even lost 500 dollars a week at work so they could get their 5 doe...
then they went to new york and shot 5 more doe,some went to so.caro;ina, 5 more..
are these people sportsman, no way ,they are aftyer MEAT....
so, its MEAT and doe are getting rapped because of it....
#74
ORIGINAL: sproulman
DOE licenses went because hunters want MEAT..
look at rabbits here, hunters killed them off and never left some for next year..
go to sgl252,miles of the best habitat but very few rabbits, no deer,no squireaals,no grouse, few pheasants,no turkeys..
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?
hunters cleaned them out...
same with DOE..people will hunt until there is not 1 deer left..
i am not in majority, for sure..
i dont kill doe in wmu2g but i do get a doe permit, i feel it keeps 1 deer alive...
our whole family gets doe permits BUT we dont use them....
there are lots like us ,health, age.work,no doe ,they dont even use permits..
this is why the real meat hunters get 5 doe each, i know many that did..
they even lost 500 dollars a week at work so they could get their 5 doe...
then they went to new york and shot 5 more doe,some went to so.caro;ina, 5 more..
are these people sportsman, no way ,they are aftyer MEAT....
so, its MEAT and doe are getting rapped because of it....
DOE licenses went because hunters want MEAT..
look at rabbits here, hunters killed them off and never left some for next year..
go to sgl252,miles of the best habitat but very few rabbits, no deer,no squireaals,no grouse, few pheasants,no turkeys..
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?
hunters cleaned them out...
same with DOE..people will hunt until there is not 1 deer left..
i am not in majority, for sure..
i dont kill doe in wmu2g but i do get a doe permit, i feel it keeps 1 deer alive...
our whole family gets doe permits BUT we dont use them....
there are lots like us ,health, age.work,no doe ,they dont even use permits..
this is why the real meat hunters get 5 doe each, i know many that did..
they even lost 500 dollars a week at work so they could get their 5 doe...
then they went to new york and shot 5 more doe,some went to so.caro;ina, 5 more..
are these people sportsman, no way ,they are aftyer MEAT....
so, its MEAT and doe are getting rapped because of it....

I will give you credit, however, for one very vivid imagination.

Of course, if you can sell this one then maybe you can sell your cougar stories as well.

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#76
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 64
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NPA you hit the nail on the head with your picture. Remember though the whole state does not have the same habitat as your picture. Especially down in the SW part of the state.
#79
Sproulman I have a ? for you. I been hunting in PA 30 yrs and as far as I know
you are only aload three tags and one of them being a buck tag,so where do you
get that guys are killing 5 does a year.
you are only aload three tags and one of them being a buck tag,so where do you
get that guys are killing 5 does a year.
#80
Typical Buck
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 522
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From: PA
Only way anyone could be legally killing that many doe in S-man's neck of the woods, is if some of them were DMAP tags. About the maximum number of "normal" doe tags would be 2, since the area sells out fairly quickly(and however many DMAPs one could score...if any).
You still need a WMU-specific doe tag to shoot a doe on a Red Tag farm, if not mistaken. Unless...he is also counting doe legallyshot for crop damage, by these individuals?
You still need a WMU-specific doe tag to shoot a doe on a Red Tag farm, if not mistaken. Unless...he is also counting doe legallyshot for crop damage, by these individuals?



