Milford-CT, Dead dear and hunting near school cause concern
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Milford-CT, Dead dear and hunting near school cause concern
I just finished reading the local paper on an article, "Dead deer and hunting near school cause concern".I almost fell off my seat!!!
Full article -
Dead deer and hunting near school cause concern
Hunting ban south of I-95 proposed by game warden
by Brian McCready
Milford - Mark Fearnley has seen the carcasses of dead deer needlessly piling up near Silver Sands State Park. He's received phone calls from parents worried about their children's safety as stray arrows shot from crossbows fly near Pumpkin Delight School.
Fearnley said in order to prevent a future disaster he is proposing the city ban all hunting south of Interstae 95. Additionally, the proposed ordinance would restrict hunting withina quarter mile from any city park, or public and private school. Farms would be exempt along with federal land areas that are already designated for hunting.
"To me it's an accident waiting to happen. It will be a kid, a jogger, or dog walker who will get hurt," Fearnley said. "I've been getting calls that I should do something."
Anyone who violates the ordinance could face fines between $100 and $1,000 and serve anywhere from 60 days to one year in prison. It's likely the ordinance, if adopted, would also have to be debated at the state level.
Fearnley, who is the city's fish and gaming constable, a position that is unpaid, has written a letter to the Board of Alderman outlining his hunting concerns.
Fearnley, a life-long hunter, says he anticipates his proposed ordinance will be vehemently opposed by hunters across the state, who will fear limitations elsewhere on hunting.
Top members of the Board of Aldermen and the Board of Education say they believe Fearnley's concerns are right on the mark, and they will seriously consider his proposed ordinance. No meeting date has been set to discuss the proposed ordinance.
Fearnley said that he has received concerned calls from parents who say their children have seen men in trees about 25 feet from Pumpkin Delight School on Art Street firing crossbows at deer.
The hunting islegal, he said, because the hunters have the permission of the landowner. Fearnley stresses that the hunters near the school are using crossbows and bows and arrows not actual guns. In order to use a gun there must be at least ten acres or more and must have permission from the landowner.
Hunting enthusiast Michael Blair, of Wallingford, who is a liasion for the Guilford Sportsmen's Association, said Fearnley's proposed ordinance seems like another attempt to needlessly target hunters. Blair said the state has some of the toughest hunting regulations in the country.
"This sounds like someone trying to take away the right of someone who owns land and deny them the ability to hunt on it," Blair said. "There are a lot of anti-hunter people in Connecticut who try numerous ways to stop hunting. Hunters don't try to stop people from golfing or boating."
He said the state uses money from hunting fees to acquire significant amounts of open space.It costs $28 for hunting and fishing licenses, and there are other costs to hunt specific animals like deer.
Fearnley says currently there is nothing he can do to prevent the hunting because the city has no limitations concerning the use of crossbows and bows and arrows on private land. He said he initially sought to ban hunting citywide, but was told that would be problematic because farmers who live in the northern section of the city have a right to protect their farms.
Fearnley said he has encountered four deer recently that have been killed right on the boundary of Silver Sands State Park, where hunting is not allowed.
Aldermanic Chairman Thomas Beirne Jr., R-5, said if it can be proven that there is a public hazard then the adlermen need to seriously consider adopting the ordinance.
School board Majority Leader Pamela Staneski, R-5, said she applauds Fearnley's proposed ordinance. She said there can't be hunters near a playground, school, or any facility where children may be.
"The first thing on the mind of everyone should be the safety of our littlest citizens and all of our citizens," Staneski said. "We need to keep everyone safe."
WTF!!! [>:]
Full article -
Dead deer and hunting near school cause concern
Hunting ban south of I-95 proposed by game warden
by Brian McCready
Milford - Mark Fearnley has seen the carcasses of dead deer needlessly piling up near Silver Sands State Park. He's received phone calls from parents worried about their children's safety as stray arrows shot from crossbows fly near Pumpkin Delight School.
Fearnley said in order to prevent a future disaster he is proposing the city ban all hunting south of Interstae 95. Additionally, the proposed ordinance would restrict hunting withina quarter mile from any city park, or public and private school. Farms would be exempt along with federal land areas that are already designated for hunting.
"To me it's an accident waiting to happen. It will be a kid, a jogger, or dog walker who will get hurt," Fearnley said. "I've been getting calls that I should do something."
Anyone who violates the ordinance could face fines between $100 and $1,000 and serve anywhere from 60 days to one year in prison. It's likely the ordinance, if adopted, would also have to be debated at the state level.
Fearnley, who is the city's fish and gaming constable, a position that is unpaid, has written a letter to the Board of Alderman outlining his hunting concerns.
Fearnley, a life-long hunter, says he anticipates his proposed ordinance will be vehemently opposed by hunters across the state, who will fear limitations elsewhere on hunting.
Top members of the Board of Aldermen and the Board of Education say they believe Fearnley's concerns are right on the mark, and they will seriously consider his proposed ordinance. No meeting date has been set to discuss the proposed ordinance.
Fearnley said that he has received concerned calls from parents who say their children have seen men in trees about 25 feet from Pumpkin Delight School on Art Street firing crossbows at deer.
The hunting islegal, he said, because the hunters have the permission of the landowner. Fearnley stresses that the hunters near the school are using crossbows and bows and arrows not actual guns. In order to use a gun there must be at least ten acres or more and must have permission from the landowner.
Hunting enthusiast Michael Blair, of Wallingford, who is a liasion for the Guilford Sportsmen's Association, said Fearnley's proposed ordinance seems like another attempt to needlessly target hunters. Blair said the state has some of the toughest hunting regulations in the country.
"This sounds like someone trying to take away the right of someone who owns land and deny them the ability to hunt on it," Blair said. "There are a lot of anti-hunter people in Connecticut who try numerous ways to stop hunting. Hunters don't try to stop people from golfing or boating."
He said the state uses money from hunting fees to acquire significant amounts of open space.It costs $28 for hunting and fishing licenses, and there are other costs to hunt specific animals like deer.
Fearnley says currently there is nothing he can do to prevent the hunting because the city has no limitations concerning the use of crossbows and bows and arrows on private land. He said he initially sought to ban hunting citywide, but was told that would be problematic because farmers who live in the northern section of the city have a right to protect their farms.
Fearnley said he has encountered four deer recently that have been killed right on the boundary of Silver Sands State Park, where hunting is not allowed.
Aldermanic Chairman Thomas Beirne Jr., R-5, said if it can be proven that there is a public hazard then the adlermen need to seriously consider adopting the ordinance.
School board Majority Leader Pamela Staneski, R-5, said she applauds Fearnley's proposed ordinance. She said there can't be hunters near a playground, school, or any facility where children may be.
"The first thing on the mind of everyone should be the safety of our littlest citizens and all of our citizens," Staneski said. "We need to keep everyone safe."
WTF!!! [>:]
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RE: Milford-CT, Dead dear and hunting near school cause concern
So I wrote a letter to the editor. I tried to keep emotion out and just state the facts:
To the Editor,
We do not need restrictions against hunting in the town of Milford. What we need are residents to follow the law and regulations currently set. There are laws and regulations prohibiting hunting near roads, buildings within a 500 foot zone, people, and domestic animals. Hunting or shooting from or across the traveled portion of any public roadway is prohibited. Shooting toward any person, building, or domestic animal when within range is prohibited. In accordance with Connecticut General Statute 26-61, payment of a fine, forfeiture of a bond or a plea or judgement of guilty for a hunting violation will automatically result in the suspension of all fishing, hunting and trapping privileges including your fishing, hunting and trapping license. To comply with the provisions, any person having their hunting license suspended for the following safety violations will be required to complete a remedial hunter education course prior to reinstatement of such license following the suspension period. More information can be read at Connecticut's Department of Environmental Protection - http://www.ct.gov/dep/cwp/view.asp?a=2700&q=323414&depNav_GID=1633&a mp;depNav=| or call (860) 424-3000.
Bow hunters do not need restrictions that would limit their hunting within a quarter mile of parks or schools. There is a regulation prohibiting the hunting within 500' of occupied buildings. If you see any person in trees about 25 feet from Pumpkin Delight School please call the police. Did someone say crossbows? Do you know that the use of crossbows for hunting is prohibited? There are a few exceptions under Handicapped Hunting Opportunities. There is also a closed season for hunting all deer in private lands from February 1 to September 14 or state lands from January 1 to September 14 including rifle/muzzleloader season from November 14 to December 18. I urge you if you observe any of these laws and regulations being broken please contact the Milford police department.
I am too an avid hunter living in Milford and my biggest concern is someone breaking the law by negligent hunting that results in injuries or death to any person let alone any of our children. Concerned citizens please understand the current laws and do not hesitate to contact the Connecticut Department of Environmental Protection.
George
To the Editor,
We do not need restrictions against hunting in the town of Milford. What we need are residents to follow the law and regulations currently set. There are laws and regulations prohibiting hunting near roads, buildings within a 500 foot zone, people, and domestic animals. Hunting or shooting from or across the traveled portion of any public roadway is prohibited. Shooting toward any person, building, or domestic animal when within range is prohibited. In accordance with Connecticut General Statute 26-61, payment of a fine, forfeiture of a bond or a plea or judgement of guilty for a hunting violation will automatically result in the suspension of all fishing, hunting and trapping privileges including your fishing, hunting and trapping license. To comply with the provisions, any person having their hunting license suspended for the following safety violations will be required to complete a remedial hunter education course prior to reinstatement of such license following the suspension period. More information can be read at Connecticut's Department of Environmental Protection - http://www.ct.gov/dep/cwp/view.asp?a=2700&q=323414&depNav_GID=1633&a mp;depNav=| or call (860) 424-3000.
Bow hunters do not need restrictions that would limit their hunting within a quarter mile of parks or schools. There is a regulation prohibiting the hunting within 500' of occupied buildings. If you see any person in trees about 25 feet from Pumpkin Delight School please call the police. Did someone say crossbows? Do you know that the use of crossbows for hunting is prohibited? There are a few exceptions under Handicapped Hunting Opportunities. There is also a closed season for hunting all deer in private lands from February 1 to September 14 or state lands from January 1 to September 14 including rifle/muzzleloader season from November 14 to December 18. I urge you if you observe any of these laws and regulations being broken please contact the Milford police department.
I am too an avid hunter living in Milford and my biggest concern is someone breaking the law by negligent hunting that results in injuries or death to any person let alone any of our children. Concerned citizens please understand the current laws and do not hesitate to contact the Connecticut Department of Environmental Protection.
George
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RE: Milford-CT, Dead dear and hunting near school cause concern
Well said!!!
Arrows flying near public schools. This sounds rediculos to me, and like there is more to the story then what this (so called hunter) is saying. And what gets me the most is a lot of nonhunters belive this B.S.
Arrows flying near public schools. This sounds rediculos to me, and like there is more to the story then what this (so called hunter) is saying. And what gets me the most is a lot of nonhunters belive this B.S.
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RE: Milford-CT, Dead dear and hunting near school cause concern
CTBuckKilla,
The 500 ft zone only applies to firearms hunting. You can be as close to a building as you want with a bow. You can also be closer than 500 feet to a building, hunting with a firearm, as long as you have the written permission of the dwelling's owner. EDIT: I no longer see this statement listed in the guide, this may no longer we an allowable option for anyone other than a landowner...
http://www.ct.gov/dep/cwp/view.asp?a=2700&q=323400&depNav_GID=1633#T OP
The first portion of your argument is valid, even bowhunters cannot fire across a road or towards an animal or an occupied space. This matter will probably be jointly decided by the city and the DEP, due to the overpopulation in that area. If memory serves me correctly, the last deer population study had Milford at #1 or #2 in the state, in regards to deer per square mile. Factor in the large human population, the wealth of the population, and the insurance industry---naw, I don't think these suggested restrictions will pass...
PS> I'm a Certified CT DEP junior Bowhunting instructor, but unfortunately I have moved out of state, and hence won't get the chance to teach Bowhunting Safety to anyone in the state...
The 500 ft zone only applies to firearms hunting. You can be as close to a building as you want with a bow. You can also be closer than 500 feet to a building, hunting with a firearm, as long as you have the written permission of the dwelling's owner. EDIT: I no longer see this statement listed in the guide, this may no longer we an allowable option for anyone other than a landowner...
http://www.ct.gov/dep/cwp/view.asp?a=2700&q=323400&depNav_GID=1633#T OP
The first portion of your argument is valid, even bowhunters cannot fire across a road or towards an animal or an occupied space. This matter will probably be jointly decided by the city and the DEP, due to the overpopulation in that area. If memory serves me correctly, the last deer population study had Milford at #1 or #2 in the state, in regards to deer per square mile. Factor in the large human population, the wealth of the population, and the insurance industry---naw, I don't think these suggested restrictions will pass...
PS> I'm a Certified CT DEP junior Bowhunting instructor, but unfortunately I have moved out of state, and hence won't get the chance to teach Bowhunting Safety to anyone in the state...
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RE: Milford-CT, Dead dear and hunting near school cause concern
I live right down the street....
You are not allowed to hunt deer in CT parks and it is needed. There are over 50 deer running around this park and most of it is a beach. It is all over browsed....... I think the park is 200 acres....50 deer on 200 acres of beach with a tiny piece woods...In 20 mins I counted 30
Banning hunting is ridiculous....
there has never been a non hunter accident related to bow hunting in CT .....EVER !!!!!! this person is a warden ????? what a joke.... this state with their anti hunting makes me sick....theyare all for it when there landscaping is getting eaten
This is not a accident waiting to happen......the hunting is needed !!!!
You are not allowed to hunt deer in CT parks and it is needed. There are over 50 deer running around this park and most of it is a beach. It is all over browsed....... I think the park is 200 acres....50 deer on 200 acres of beach with a tiny piece woods...In 20 mins I counted 30
Banning hunting is ridiculous....
there has never been a non hunter accident related to bow hunting in CT .....EVER !!!!!! this person is a warden ????? what a joke.... this state with their anti hunting makes me sick....theyare all for it when there landscaping is getting eaten
This is not a accident waiting to happen......the hunting is needed !!!!
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RE: Milford-CT, Dead dear and hunting near school cause concern
Can you say LYME DISEASE!!! All of you now reapeat after me, Lyme Disease, Lyme Disease... Thats why many of the small tracts of land in some of our SE MA towns are now opening up to BOW hunting. Some people in MA are actually seeing the light. They are affraid of "their" woods being dessimated and contracting lyme. So they are seeking the aid of HUNTERS! The people in CT, of all placesshould know better. They must be transients from MA.
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RE: Milford-CT, Dead dear and hunting near school cause concern
Rusty
My buddies daughter 2nd grade class has 80 percent fo the kids have already had lyme disease....how is that for a stat !!!!
This "volunteer game warden" wants to ban hunting....what a joke
I would be more worried about my child getting Lyme than shot with an arrow
My buddies daughter 2nd grade class has 80 percent fo the kids have already had lyme disease....how is that for a stat !!!!
This "volunteer game warden" wants to ban hunting....what a joke
I would be more worried about my child getting Lyme than shot with an arrow
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RE: Milford-CT, Dead dear and hunting near school cause concern
sc003ro, That is a scary Stat!!! WHat is the long term prognosis of those children? The adultsI know that had it will suffer joint pain forever.
I know, and arrow of all things, we are LUCKY if our arrows reach our 20 yard target with out hitting a TWIG!
We had that argument when they open up lands to archery. People don't know and need to know the trajectory or an arrow. Its all down hill after the first so many yards and it drops fast. They see the arrows shot in the old movies of archers shooting them high into the air void of any obstructions and traveling long distances to their targets. Dam Movies!!
I know, and arrow of all things, we are LUCKY if our arrows reach our 20 yard target with out hitting a TWIG!
We had that argument when they open up lands to archery. People don't know and need to know the trajectory or an arrow. Its all down hill after the first so many yards and it drops fast. They see the arrows shot in the old movies of archers shooting them high into the air void of any obstructions and traveling long distances to their targets. Dam Movies!!
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RE: Milford-CT, Dead dear and hunting near school cause concern
they are starting to wake up in CT ...alittle...but it is still a fight.....not sure about the kids...I am sure they will feel it as they get older
they have started to let us hunt watercompany land in heavy deer areas....extended the season ...you still have the private areas you cannot get in
when friends of animals corporate headquarters is in your state it makes things difficult...
they have started to let us hunt watercompany land in heavy deer areas....extended the season ...you still have the private areas you cannot get in
when friends of animals corporate headquarters is in your state it makes things difficult...