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The Region 7 Game Commission Seat is open and an avid hunter and involved citizen is one of the preeminent candidates. His name is Jay Delaney.
Jay is heavily involved in getting youth into PA hunting. He is also very heavily involved in re-establishing wild pheasants in PA.
Jay has been recommended by every interviewing body or individual. His name has been passed to the governor.
Jay is a member of the National Rifle Association, The North Branch Land trust and the Mehoopany Creek Watershed Association.
He is one of the founding members of the Northeast Pennsylvania Chapter of Pheasants Forever #803 and also serves as the Youth Chairman and he has a Mentored Youth Pheasant Hunt scheduled for 35 Junior Hunters on October 7, 2006.
Jay also hunts for turkey, bear, deer, grouse, woodcock and is an avid fisherman of the Susquehanna River and many of the local trout streams.
Having Jay sitting on the Board of Commissioners will be an asset to all hunters in PA. Those of today, and those to come.

Jay is running against a Mr. Powell, who is an attorney.
Powell was “NOT APPROVED BY THE GOVERNOR’S SPORTSMEN’S ADVISORY COUNCIL.”

BUT --- HE MAY GET THE APPOINTMENT!

WHY?
Coming out of H-Burg today is word that Steve Crawford, the Governor’s legislation liaison, who is close with Rep. Staback and Rob Miller, has convinced the Governor that they will need Stabacks’ votes on some tax increase issues, and Powell --- is Staback’s man.

No matter what we may agree or disagree on here, we should not let this happen.
There simply is no comparison in candidates. One is “one of us” and the other is a political whim.

Call or write, or at the very least, send an email to express legitimacy in making this appointment.

http://sites.state.pa.us/PA_Exec/Governor/govmail.html

Also the mailing address is: Governor Edward G. Rendell
225 Main Capitol Building
Harrisburg, PA17120

Phone - 717-787-2500


PA Senate Members:

www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/home/member_information/senators_alpha.cfm

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Thats the game of politics. The only e=mail Ive sent out was to my state legislator & senator on the g/c deer management fiasco and they agree. So having your man in there on a deer subject of seasons & bag limits will fall on deaf ears. The way votes go now on the deer wars it,s always 4-2 let me see we got our Palones, Schleiden, Isabella, stay the course people.So if your guy gets in it will be a vote of 4-3 same difference the hunters lose again. Thats why the g/c didnt get their license increase politics got involved BIG TIME who are we the hunters of this commonwealth to question the g/c policy on any matter. NorthPa welcome to the world of politics put your seatbelt on cause its gonna get worse.:)

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Nice of you to be so concerned about hunting and the future of our heritage, Mr. Maturity.

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That, sadly, is the way things work. I am amazed, with all of the bickering PA "stuff", there has not been more response that this. I hope the "right" person gets appointed. If he doesn't, there is some good ammo for the masses to rally/b!tch about. Check out NY's issue with the new Gov's appointment for new DEC commisioners. Not much better.

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Come on NorthPa. On h.p.a.they got more replies than this. Those boys over there are going to march around the Governors Mansion.:D:D:D:D:D

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Message sent. Thanks for the heads up.

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Ditto on the message sent.

Actually I sent 2.

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message sent!

thanks for the heads up!

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Yup, I lifted much of this post from HPA, with permission and a thank you from the original poster.

I'll repeat, we all "claim" to have a love of the outdoors, despite our differences. Supposedly, the various types and personalities who hunt and cross paths afieldshare a common passion.

Admittedly "this is the way it works" -- sometimes.
It works this way because "we" allow it to work this way.
Until very recently we would never have known of such shenanigans until it was too late. That wasthen. Now we have the Internet and we "do" know, with enough forewarning that we "can" affect change.

The question is -- will we?

One merely has to decide if they want to be represented by a person who understands the various concerns, has experience in our hunting heritage and has worked very hard to ensure and promote the future of hunting.

Or, do they want a polictically leveraged appointment?

For all the disssatisfaction expressed over past appointees -- grocery store clerks, business owners, non-hunters, you would think all sides would quit spitting long enough to band together on this issue.

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more of the same...not surprising...grow up.

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If I may ask why write to only one Senator?

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Because he an she represent me being in my district thats how it works.:)

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UUMM ,no thats not how it works. Both Senators represent you. They are not limited to districts.

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Oh, I understand completely now. Vote Democrat no matter what. Thats Brilliant! One party votes make me sick! Maybe if people took the time to educate themselves instead of being lazy at the voting machines this country could get back on track. Takes alot of effort to pull one lever.

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I'm wondering how many of the avid sportsmen here actually care?

I don't mean to slight anyone but does it seem to the rest of you that the issue is mostly "how many deer?"
An appointment to the PGC can have long lasting impact on everything we claim to care about.
Where's the love? :(

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Some people need a reallity check here. Get this country back on track? Your to funny. We lost this country allready. Everything is made overseas and they own us. We can not get this country back on track because to many people won't want to give up what they have to do this. Yea, I see us shutting out others countries and start making things here while everyone goes to the poor house. I see the poor harvesting deer when they are hungry and getting fined for it. In reallity everyone will just bow down and be good little boys and girls and not do a damn thing. I can't believe you think this country can get back on track. She is derailed and not comming back. Same with hunting. Most don't give a hell about it anymore. You think the majority is goanna loose sleep over it if it is gone? Hunting has been over for a while now for small game and birds. Deer was the only income the PGC really had that kept them in revenue. You can bet it is going to fade away when there are no deer for hunters to shoot. No game animals = no hunters.

NorthPA, There is no other animal that hunters can hunt that was in large numbers as deer and you say they just asked how many deer. Well that is because we know how many small game species there are just as plenty as deer. NOTTA ZILCH 0000. And we see what the PGC does that has an impact on the future of hunting. Taking the last abundant animal and killing them off and ruining their own employment. It's just a matter of time before there is no more PGC because their lack of intelligence on why people been buying licenses. Not small game but for deer hunting. Check your numbers and see how many purchase their license before each deer hunt season? Archery, flintlock, rifle..This will clue you in on some truth to what I say.


Yep, Make a change huh. To funny all.

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Deer handler, you are the MOST UNIFORMED individual I've ever seen on a message board. And I'm talking 7 and 8 year olds posters.
You simply know nothing about anything.

Don't know if it is chemical or genetic but I really feel sorry for you.
Of course, some do say; "ignorance is bliss.":eek:

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What other game animal that one can hunt and consume that is as widely established as whitetail deer. Predators arein second place if notmore abundantthan deer. Yes, We are misinformed when it comes to population sizes of deer herds. Check your sales and see how many license been bought right before these seasons. And it will show you that I am correct. It's about the deer and not small game. Change the time for when doe tags have to be mailed in to after small game season. You will see people won't bother to get their license till the last minute just to hunt deer.
I am not the uninformed here. Can you tell us how many license been sold just before the first round doe tags needed to be sent in? Can you show us how many license been sold after small game season? I know someone can find these stats and post them for us to see who is misinformed.

Show me the stats NorthPa of when license been bought. And we will see who knows more about what is going on. And it is not goanna be you.

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Deer hunting is the bread and butter in PA.Although down the last two years turkey populations are doing pretty well.Bear numbers are still up.The days of a breeding pheasant population are long gone.Geese are up in numbers.Rabbits are down due to predators in my opinion.
Grouse numbers have been declining because of the lack of clearcutting/edges in our forests.

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Predators have more to do with small game decline. Fox,coons,bobcats,bear,coyotes,fishers and any other animal that prey on new borns and eggs. When you got less trappers than coyotes alone the population of predators are out of control. 2005 only 23000 trapping license been sold. Now, To fix the small game they need to have no close season on all the predators except for bear. We had enough predators in Pa, and they introduce bobcats and fishers. Yes, this helped the small game population out. To funny. Good small game management. What a joke.

http://www.huntingnet.com//forum/tm.aspx?m=2015142

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What are you talkin about.What's your point with respect to a good topic on "Important issues in PA NOW".You go off on some wild tangent that has no bearing on the discussion much less anything intelligent to do with wildlife management.

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True. Heres an interview of this topic on Shooshtime I seen you have to google shooshtime and click on the first link. I believe it's the first video on the second page. Warning some graphic material on that site though but it will relate to this topic.

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3 Gobblers, you were the one who side-stepped the topic with your whining. Deer handler also could not stay on topic.
As for "hunting topics only" -- look around.
This forum has everything from deer and elk farms, to Grannis appointment in NY, to someone moving to CT., theyr'e after our guns, anyone hunt in 5C -- on and on. How many of non-hunting posts did you participate in?

THE FACT IS THAT PGC COMMISSIONER APPOINTMENTS HAVE EVERYTHING TO DO WITH HUNTING.

It seems a couple of you are just not mature enough to discuss or participate on an adult fashion.

Most "hunters" overcome negatives by their own efforts, whether they are in the woods and fields or in the politics that invariably play a role.
It takes an gumption to do more than whine........

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Guys, lets forget the differences here and focus on the real issue.

None of us wants to see a Game Commisionner appointment of an unqualified crony for political payback. That's the only issue here. Next time it could well be a PETA member if we dont let ourselves be heard!!

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Amen to that.

At least all of the previous "political cronies" had backgrounds that included past involvement in conservation, hunting and the outdoors. Only one current candidate has a proven track record in such things and was deemed qualified by the appropriate council who reviewed his accomplishments and interviewed him.

On the upside, I discovered yesterday that his Senator knows him personally and therefore, shealsoknows of his qualifications firsthand. That his poltical connections amount to merely being known by his Senator, works fer me. He has no one other than his peers (fellow hunters), working on his behalf. The other guy is being supported in the interests of political payback and back room deals.

It's a no brainer for most of us, who the better candidate is.:)

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Been writing the big shots for the last year. By the looks of it, the House Game and Fish Comhave been listening;)

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Glad to see you're supporting Delaney, High Country.
The HG&F Committee strongly supports his appointment.

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Makes no difference who gets in there. The BOC has been overrun with the EMP mindset. Guys like you, who support this mindset, made your beds. Now sleep in it.[:'(]

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Who is on the committee ?

Pa. lawmaker not pleased with Game Commission committees

Sunday, March 11, 2007

The Game Commission
• A state lawmaker is going after the Game Commission for the way it runs its citizens advisory committees.

The committees are made up of sportsmen, farmers, forest landowners, conservationists, and others. Their purpose is to make recommendations to the commission on whether deer populations should go up, go down or stay the same in a particular wildlife management unit, based on deer-human conflicts.

There are four advisory committees in place this year, in wildlife management units 1B, 2C, 3B, and 5C. They are to finalize their recommendations before the end of March.

The problem is that the commission won't say publicly who is serving on each committee, nor will it allow the public to attend the groups' sessions.

State Rep. Bob Godshall, a Montgomery County Republican, took the agency to task over that stance at its January meeting. Then, this week, he introduced legislation that would require the commission to make all advisory council meetings public and post the names of committee members on its web site.

-- Bob Frye

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Public info on CAC is just about nonexistant as are the names of the players involved. As a sidenote, how many of you took the time to communicate, like I did,with Mr Delaney to see what input he could add to the BOC?

From our communications, I feel that he would add balance to the BOC. I support him 100%. Afterall, the PGC mission statement is about managing wildlife all Pa residents, not just hunters. Nothing wrong with having a non hunter aboard ship representing 92% of the nonhunters in this state that Robert, Dennis, and others are talking about. I believe Robert and Dennis refer to them as "stakeholders". I don't see where the problem is. Gov Rendell is giving you the balance that you want so bad, and now you are squawking and crying and whining about it. Talking out both sides of your mouth comes to mind here.

A whole new door in wildlife management has been opened for you folks. Learn to live with it.;)

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Kevin, (HighCountry), I'm curious what Delaney told you that makes him "your" choice.
You're avoiding specifics.

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Man,now I'm really confuseled.Don't know who to support: Rendell's guy or the other fellow.

:eek:

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When I joined this messageboard, I never noticed anything about being specific in the TOS. Did you?

Does refering to me as Kevin make you feel important or a legend in your own mind? My name is not Kevin. Sorry.

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Oh I'm not curious about Delaney at all. Was just wondering why you now support "The Hunting Candidate." You seem a little confused in your fantasy story. Delanely is not the "non Hunter" you describe. He is very active in hunting and hunting activities and I have communicated with him several times.
I am glad you came around to supporting him though -- thanks for joining Dennis and I and others in this regard.
Or are you ---- ah, imagining you "communicated with him? He and I have several mutual friends and we're planning on sitting down to have a cold beer in the next week or so. I'll tell him you spoke highly of him after your "communication" with him.
How's things in F-Ville. I was over there a coupleweeks ago to visit Charlie and Kathleen Schweitzer. Of course you know them, working night shift at P&G as you do and being from Forksville like you are.
You're not in that warehouse contractor crew at P&G are ya?
Forksville is a great little village, I sure miss living there. I did tell you I boarded with Vic and Alice Cott for 10 years didn't I? You of course would've known them.
So hey, since we must be old neighbors, (unless of course, you just moved to Forksville recently), let's be glad we both support Jay on this appointment.
Sorry for getting into the Forksville thing, seems everytime I do that you don't wanna talk about it and you disappear for a while...............?

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Rumor coming out of the Capital at the end of the day is that all the "communication" has helped to convince the Gov that we need an involved commissioner.
Thanks to all for the help. Now on to confirmation.

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Dear Robert

Funny you should mention the goings on in Harrisburg. Yesterday I had a pleasant conversation with Reps. Staback and Rohrer, Majority and Minority Chairmen of HG&FC. Both seemed extremely receptive to some of the ideas that I ran by them.

Robert, I don't know what your fixation is with the Forksville thing. My guess is that it makes you feel important. Instead of worrying about where and how I pay my taxes, your time would be better spent trying to get another one of your LTE rants, which are usually ignored, published in a downstate newspaper.

Good luck. If you need any advice or tips, please feel free to get in touch. I have a friend that's a pretty good writer and in all probability, he could pull a few strings to get your rants published.:D

Regards,

Tim

PS Sorry that our schedules are so conflicting. I only get a short amount of time at a PC during the early morning hours, and during the day I'm usually sleeping. Sorry if this upsets you. I'll try to pay better attention from this point on so that I can get my thoughts to you posted before the thread gets locked or deleted.;)

PSS Nevermind.

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Good to hear from ya HC. Seems funny you're not celebrating Delaney's nomination, since he was your guy also. (Bet Staback is unhappy with you for that)[:'(]

I'll try to limit the "fixation" I have with Forksville. My take is that since there are maybe 300 people in that entire postal address, and we both have some history there, that we must have mutual friends or maybe even know each other. Sorry if you are sensitive about it, but being that you
are somewhat secretive I thought perhaps we could share some Forksville talk --- especially since you've come over to support my candidate.

Oh, by the way, Jay Delaney seems to have forgot that you "communicated" with him. You wouldn't have used another alias would ya? :D

I didn't get to talk to Staback yesterday. Seems he was having a bad day after about 9:30 am. But I did talk to his legislative aid. He told me Staback was getting pressure to continue pushing for Powell's nominationfrom a, I-am-near-famous, radio talk show host at the time. Seems the guy even speculated what was gonna happen to the Dems if another PGC "shill" got nominated.

Thanks for the offer on my LTE'S. I've been very satisfied with the results to date, (look what happened with Delaney's nomination). The Daily Review even broke thier own "one per week, per writer" rule and allowed me a second letter in the same week -- now how can you argue with success like that?Of course that was during the USP/Ulster circus.

But if you want to mention "your writers" name maybe I'll consider collaborating on a joint editorial comment with him.
That of course would depend on him being a person of integrity, not one to use terms and statements like; "deer crisis in PA," "we will only have 50k deer by 2009," "cougars (PGC stocked) are impacting our deer herd," "PGC is crossbreeding wolves and coyotes," etc.
So there now, I appreciate the offer and I've "let you know" that I am willing to work toward a more successful political initiative with your gracious help.

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Now that Delaney's name has at least been sent over to the Senate for consideration,perhaps I'll call my friend at DEP and request that they send a team to check the water quality vis a vis that P&G plant that someone mentioned.

It's good to have friends. Might could be something in the water up there?

:)

Now I wonder if another deal was made to send Delaney's name over, knowing that he might not get approved, just to get hunters off'n the backs of those involved?

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Well Dennis, I suppose if you'd enjoy making a phone call to one of the cast of your imaginary little friends, so be it. Your vivid imagination reminds me of afeeble attempt at imitating a Mark Twain short story, which he launched while still a teen.Which, by the way, is only trumpted by Robert, who is the first person I've ever seen that had to pick names from a phone bookso he couldcall those names "friends".

I'm headed home. Have a nice day.;)