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BTBowhunter 01-11-2007 02:57 PM

The fat lady has sung in PA
 
http://www.pgc.state.pa.us/pgc/cwp/view.asp?Q=170978&A=11


Release #002-07



GAME COMMISSION HAILS COMMONWEALTH COURT'S RULING TO THROW OUT CHALLENGE TO DEER MANAGEMENT CASE

HARRISBURG - Pennsylvania Game Commission Executive Director Carl G. Roe today hailed a Commonwealth Court ruling that dismissed, with prejudice, the Unified Sportsmen of Pennsylvania's challenge to the agency's deer management program. The decision to throw out the case was made "with prejudice," meaning that the lawsuit may not be re-filed.

"Today's court ruling is a strong statement that the Game Commission's deer management program is being conducted in a sound, methodical and scientific manner," Roe said. "We believe that most hunters and the general public recognize that the need to reduce and stabilize our state's deer herd is a short-term pain that we must endure in order to achieve long-term gains.

"Our hope is that this ruling will cease the unnecessary expenditure of sportsmen's dollars and tax dollars fighting frivolous and ill-conceived lawsuits."

Roe noted that, since 2000, the Game Commission has worked to implement a deer management program that takes into account the concerns of all Pennsylvanians, and the agency has been consistent and open in its approach.

"The deer management plan, which is available on our website, was developed with public input to improve the health of the state's deer herd; to encourage healthy habitat, which deer and all other wildlife depend on; and to reduce deer-human conflicts," Roe said. "We believe this deer management program will improve the health of our deer herd and the habitat that supports it and other wildlife.

"Yes, hunting has become more challenging in many areas. However, the benefits from our program changes are unmistakable, as hunters have reported seeing and harvesting larger deer; land managers and foresters are seeing some regeneration recovery in our forests; and farmers are telling us that they have seen less damage to their crops.

"We have reduced deer herds in many of our more rural Wildlife Management Units, and our focus has been to stabilize deer herds in those areas over the past two hunting seasons. However, we continue to focus our efforts on reducing deer impacts in our most urbanized WMUs - 2B, 5C and 5D - in the southwestern and southeastern portions of the state."

Created in 1895 as an independent state agency, the Game Commission is responsible for conserving and managing all wild birds and mammals in the Commonwealth, establishing hunting seasons and bag limits, enforcing hunting and trapping laws, and managing habitat on the 1.4 million acres of State Game Lands it has purchased over the years with hunting and furtaking license dollars to safeguard wildlife habitat. The agency also conducts numerous wildlife conservation programs for schools, civic organizations and sportsmen's clubs.

The Game Commission does not receive any general state taxpayer dollars for its annual operating budget. The agency is funded by license sales revenues; the state's share of the federal Pittman-Robertson program, which is an excise tax collected through the sale of sporting arms and ammunition; and monies from the sale of oil, gas, coal, timber and minerals derived from State Game Lands.

The decision to throw out the case was made "with prejudice," meaning that the lawsuit may not be re-filed.

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lost horn 01-11-2007 03:10 PM

RE: The fat lady has sung in PA
 
No that wasn't the fat lady, that was three LIBERAL JUDGES :D
Give her time she is just getting warmed up.

archer58 01-11-2007 03:55 PM

RE: The fat lady has sung in PA
 
IHEAR MUSIC, SWEET ,SWEET MUSIC !!!!
Sorry had to do that.

BTBowhunter 01-11-2007 04:04 PM

RE: The fat lady has sung in PA
 

No that wasn't the fat lady, that was three LIBERAL JUDGES :D
I guess that just shows that liberals can't be wrongALL the time;)I'm just happy they chose this suit to have their token spell of common sense.

NorthPA 01-12-2007 05:31 AM

RE: The fat lady has sung in PA
 

liberal judges
What a hoot! I thought sure the spinwas going to be ye old conspiracy theory -- PGC, Audubon, PETA. Mrs. Kerryand those Californy tree huggers--- contributing to the judges widow's and orphan's fund!

Oh, by the way, what is a liberal judge?
lib·er·al Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective



1.
favorable to progress or reform,[/align]

DougE 01-12-2007 08:00 AM

RE: The fat lady has sung in PA
 
It doesn't matter.They burned up all their ridiculous conspiracy theories the first time around.

NorthPA 01-12-2007 08:49 AM

RE: The fat lady has sung in PA
 
Bailey, once again you state something with nothing to back it up.

I don't pretend to know something I don't but my information about a "prejudice ruling" is that the court is informing the plaintiffs that they:

MAY NEVER AGAIN BRING FORTH A SUIT AGAINST THESE SAME DEFENDANTS THAT INVOLVES THE SAME SUBJECT OF THE DISMISSED COMPLAINT.

If you have one shred of documentation to show otherwise, I'll glady learn from your expertise.


Chipcz 01-12-2007 12:07 PM

RE: The fat lady has sung in PA
 
Happy to see it.

I do not have a real problem with the new regs. Hunting 4c for years and recently (past 3 years) shot the 3 biggest deer over the past 31 years.

Only the attorneys and the guys raising money(Unified Sportsmen of Pennsylvania's ) profit from such stuff. IMHO just follow the money trail ad see who benefited from the lawsuit.

Everything in nature works to a balance. No doubt, you wont see deer in the parking lot anymore, but the woods will be better for it.

I am sure most of those USP's shot many many doe over the past 5 years. In my little world in 4C I shot none and the runs I hunt on still have deer coming by every day. Can't have it both ways.



DougE 01-12-2007 02:05 PM

RE: The fat lady has sung in PA
 
Each WMU has it's own antlerless allocations.Some get more and some get less.Saying the whole state is managed the same way it totaly off base.

PABuck_HNTR 01-12-2007 03:12 PM

RE: The fat lady has sung in PA
 
I have noticed one poster who would normally be all over a thread like this one had vanished since the decision.


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