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germain 01-12-2007 04:52 PM

RE: The fat lady has sung in PA
 
The whole state is managed differently but some WMU's need changes.I still think in some places especially the more populated SGL's and some other public land will need to be managed seperate from private land.Or vice versa.

BTBowhunter 01-12-2007 05:47 PM

RE: The fat lady has sung in PA
 

ORIGINAL: BaileyHill

the "world" is a big place ...one size doesn't fit every WMU. That's a fact too many seem to have forgotten!!
Maybe you ought to do a little research.....




1A
42,000




1B
30,000




2A
55,000




2B
68,000




2C
49,000




2D
56,000




2E
21,000




2F
28,000




2G
19,000




3A
29,000


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3B
43,000




3C
27,000




3D
38,000




4A
29,000




4B
31,000




4C
39,000

[/align]



4D
40,000




4E
38,000




5A
25,000




5B
53,000




5C
79,000

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5D
20,000




Totals
859,000


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Doesnt look like a one size fits all strategy to me!

BTBowhunter 01-12-2007 05:48 PM

RE: The fat lady has sung in PA
 

ORIGINAL: TRYKONOISSEUR

I have noticed one poster who would normally be all over a thread like this one had vanished since the decision.
Yeah, it must be driving the old horse crazy!;)

PABuck_HNTR 01-13-2007 12:49 PM

RE: The fat lady has sung in PA
 

NO SPORTSMAN would kill doe/fawn in wmu2g when there is very few deer..

no SPORTSMAN would harvest 5 deer when he knows very well that kids and older adults and others that dont have a lot of time to hunt have not seen or had opportunity to harvest a deer..

Sadly....More guys are not sportsman in PA than are. Listen to the stories told around the work place, listen to the stories on these message boards, you can see it for yourself.



archer58 01-13-2007 05:47 PM

RE: The fat lady has sung in PA
 
Sproulman,
I wanted to give you a field report from WMU2G for today. In only 2 seperate locations ON PUBLIC LAND in a STATE FORREST, my friends and I saw 23 deer collectively. 3 of which were bucks that offered no shot w/ a flintlock. Just a monthh ago I spoke w/ several gun hunters who would swear there were no deer in those same locations.
People in the woods,weather,wind direction and available food changes a deers daily travel and bedding. I wonder if that could account for our sightings or thee lack of someone else's.

As far as the guy having his kids get liscence's for him...well, you must live among alot of outlaws. I've never seen or heard that in my neck of the woods.

Good luck next season, and maybe you should find a new spot to hunt, or 2 or 3.

BTBowhunter 01-13-2007 06:15 PM

RE: The fat lady has sung in PA
 
archer58, glad to hear you had a good day. If you went out in this crap, you deserved to have a good day!

I dont hunt 2G but we hear the same things about there being no deer over in 2F and yet my gang still finds lots of deer when we hunt there. I guess we must both be those liars that Sproul keeps talking about.

Oh wait, I know, you hunted WAYBACK;)

DennyF 01-13-2007 06:24 PM

RE: The fat lady has sung in PA
 
"...ON PUBLIC LAND in a STATE FORREST, my friends and I saw 23 deer collectively. 3 of which were bucks that offered no shot w/ a flintlock. Just a monthh ago I spoke w/ several gun hunters who would swear there were no deer in those same locations."

Now hold on there: It's obvious that you don't understand The Problem.

It's not that there reallyare no deer,it's thatmany ofthose who say there aren't any deer now,became used to seeing those 23 deer all at one time, all inone place, multiple times per day. Preferably onopening day andin the same place they'd huntedfor the past 15-20 years.

:)

I believe those days are gone in many places, now that deer numbers are becoming morebalanced with their habitat,like they should've been years ago. It was fun while it lasted, now it's time for some seriousness.

Big Country 01-13-2007 06:51 PM

RE: The fat lady has sung in PA
 
After reading all of the posts on this thread, I have learned one thing......anybody who CLAIMS to have seen more than 4 deer in a single county is a liar.

Since I now understand this point, I have a question.....

If there are only 4 deer in those counties, why would a hunter NOT drive to another county where ther is more than 4 deer?

Hey, now I have a second question......

If there are only 4 deer in these certain counties, why would hunters attempt to kill the last 4 deer?

Chipcz 01-14-2007 12:49 PM

RE: The fat lady has sung in PA
 
I took a walk through game lands 4C yesterday afternoon a saw 7 deer. 3 different sightings and certainly different deer. Did a little 2007 scouting and was very hapy with what I saw. Although it was a 45 minute walk from the giant parking lot accessible to anyone.

One problem we have is that our society has become too fat to walk 45 minutes to shoot and drag a deer.



archer58 01-14-2007 12:53 PM

RE: The fat lady has sung in PA
 
Amen to that Chip. The guys that complain the most don't get in the woods very far. They think if a road goes back 1/2 mile and they walk 100 yards they're WAY BACK IN.


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