Yes I can blame hunters.They have a stake in PA hunting and your reputation.The PGC does not pull the trigger - Hunters Do.

Hunters fail to turn in report cards using any number of lame duck excuses.
They pull the trigger and then justify it because the PGC said so.I could fill 6 tags this year very easily on legal deer.By the end of Jan I might fill 4 by my choice not because I have 6.

What does the PGC director being a retired full bird colonel have to do with the price of bread.BTW - Very Few officers experiance what there soldiers endure.

Another blame game finger pointing manuever.How many WMA's and how often would this colonel need to hunt to become worthy of his job.

What good is that card if they don't know how many deer there was to begin with? Notta. Every year they are guessing what the herd number is PSM. If you get this many complaints from hunters over the years about the deer herd .You better stop and listen to them. We are the ones who knows this. We are the ones in the woods who are your number keepers on deer for the PGC. When the majority is saying slow down one year and you keep it floored year after year.You best better listen when we yell hit the brakes hard.Better lock them up to save this sport of hunting or it will be dead after you don't make that turn that we been telling you to slow down about with that steep cliff in front of us.Us hunters have been telling them to slow the slaughter down. Did they listen? No. Don't blame this on the hunters cause the PGC has been warned about this years ago by us hunters.They are the ones who has to take responsibility for this mess and cannot in anyway shape or form blame this on the hunters.We obeyed their laws they set before us. The speed limit is 55 is the majority goanna slow down and do 40? Not a chance untill it is posted for 40.

Well I'm sorry to hear that LP. I knowthe area I hunt we evaluate the number of deer sightings we are seeing and then decide how many doe we will take. It's too bad guys can't lay off the trigger if it is that bad. If I hunted two weeks and could count the number of deer on my hand I sure wouldn't be shooting one of those deer. You can try to put ALL the blame on the PGC but we are all responsible for the management of the deer!!!

Exactly right WTD!

I have no patience for these guys that criticize the PGC's deer policies and yet they tell us they "shot the only 2 deer I saw in two weeks"
The PGC didnt pull the trigger! I buy a bunch of doe tags as well as some DMAP tags every year. Not so I can fill every tag but so I can hunt in various areas. I take several in 2B every year because they are plentiful but even there, I take only what I feel each area can stand. My sons and I eachhave a 2F and two DMAPS for areas near my camp. We have taken a total of three deer there but only on lands where the deer herd is healthy. How did we find those spots? We scouted! We purposely laid off an old favorite area where sign was sparse. We know it well enough to have gone in and scored but it wasnt what we thought was the best thing for the area.

I swear some of these USP types would knowingly shoot the last deer in the area just to blame the PGC for it's demise!

"What does the PGC director being a retired full bird colonel have to do with the price of bread.BTW - Very Few officers experiance what there soldiers endure."

I thought I explained that. Perhaps you should read the post again. Slowly.

Just for your info, officers in the field, under combat conditions experience everything the lowest ranking member of the company experiences. Everything from food to toilet paper.

I read exactly what you wrote the 1st time.It clearly tries to equate the PGC executive director who just happens to be a retired Army full bird to enduring what his soldiers do by hunting state game lands.

My question remains - How Often and How Many state game lands does the retired Army full bird director need to hunt before he's worthy to serve the hunters of PA.Answer - None - Nuttin - Nauda - Zip - Zero

FYI - Officers in the field under combat conditions = Very Few officiers

BTW - The best officer is one who has come up thru the ranks and endured as a non-comm before being commisioned.

Now - since you probably know nothing about this directors military back ground and how it relates to his current position its seems to be a moot point.

Created in 1895 as an independent state agency, the Game Commission is responsible for conserving and managing all wild birds and mammals in the Commonwealth, establishing hunting seasons and bag limits, enforcing hunting and trapping laws, and managing habitat on the 1.4 million acres of State Game Lands it has purchased over the years with hunting and furtaking license dollars to safeguard wildlife habitat.

I do not see where it says the hunters are responsible,Does anyone else? Even the PGC says they are responsible and no mention of the hunters. We are just responsible to follow the laws they make. And by this above,They should be getting fired pretty soon if they don't make this priority instead of catering to other agencies.

"My question remains - How Often and How Many state game lands does the retired Army full bird director need to hunt before he's worthy to serve the hunters of PA."

My point is that if these Executive officers of the PGC and the Commissioners were to hunt public land expressly designated for hunting (Game Lands) conditions on them would be much better then what they presently are.

How else can they know for sure what conditions are? Don't you think that they owe it to us to experience it themselves? Shouldn't they do some of their own "home work."

And you make a very good point if it was a perfect world.

However in the real world of business it is not always possible or practical for CEO,directors,managers or even supervisors to spend time down in the trenches.

It would be nice but not imperative to be an effective Director to "endure" hunting on state lands.Could you imagine if hunters found out this guy was hunting xyz WMA.

And - Being he is a retired Army Col and just might be a hard core outdoorsman and hunter,he might come back after hunting all these state lands and say "what the hell is the problem with these guys".

Be careful what you wish for.