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Old 11-23-2006 | 07:42 PM
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i think they checked in over 100 bear in clinton county first day..below last year..i saw bear today ,looked like around 300 pds..

lots of feed here in clinton/potter county, acorns all over..bears are still out roaming..

too many cubs being killed, some were 39 pds,disgusting..then hunters wonder why they did not kill many big bears..

they are not given chance to grow up..lots of hunters are complaining about the archery bear season last week.. they say hunters are baiting in bears to camps etc and shooting them with bow..

i would like to see us go back to the way it was, no cubs are allowed to be shot..a friend i saw at the elderly thanksgiving dinner said he saw bear in his yard early today also.. he said it went over 300 pds also..

every year after season 1 or 2 big bears are in my yard..last year, 1 was over 300 i feel and had limp ,other was 500 pds,head as big as basketball..reason is i dont allow bear hunting on my land..the bears hide in my yard..

you should see the damage they have done to the dcnr trees they planted 4 years ago.. they ripped the trees out of tubes, thousands of them are destroyed..

i wonder if they will blame deer for that??
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Old 11-24-2006 | 02:02 PM
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I don't like the idea of shooting cubs either. I also feel like shooting a sow ( with cubs) shouldn't be allowed.

A buddy of mine went bear hunting several years ago. He heard a couple shots and then a a bunch of yelling back and forth. Then a few more shots.

It seems, that a guy shot a big sow with cubs. The guy was yelling for his buddies to come over to him because the 2 cubs climbed a tree. The buddies came over and shot the small cubs right out of the tree.

My buddy said it made hime sick and said the cubs were really small, maybe 30 or 40lbs.

I too feel that baiting should be legalized and cubs and sows with cubs off limits.

I was good to read the post on here of the guy that passed on the sow with cubs. The guy deserves a pat on the back for being a true sportsman.
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Old 11-24-2006 | 04:44 PM
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Didnt there used to be a law where you couldnt shoot a bear cub or a bear under a 100 pounds?
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Old 11-24-2006 | 06:28 PM
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Didnt there used to be a law where you couldnt shoot a bear cub or a bear under a 100 pounds?
i passed i would say at least 6 mother bears with cubs in 60s to 70s..you were only allowed to shoot 1 bear per crew..NO CUBS..very few cubs were illegally shot and ones that were all were over 100pds..

a 39 pd cub looks like a porcupine ..yes, many cubs are shot with mother.almost all..hunters know this, they say they could not tell..BULL#*@*..

most cubs will stay there with mother after she is shot, some will lay on her side or go up a tree..

to shoot a cubs while laying there or up tree is lowest i think a person can get..is it done,YOU BET IT IS AND MOST TIMES THE SAME HUNTER THAT SHOT MOTHER,SHOOTS CUBS AND CALLS ON RADIO TO BRING DOWN TAGS orCALLS TO HAVE ANOTHER PERSON IN CREW COME SHOOT CUBS..

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Old 11-24-2006 | 08:38 PM
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I never saw it personally because I knew what was going on, but I heard a mother and three cubs being shot at the same time in a draw about 150 yds. from me three years ago. The bawling was something that will stay with me for the rest of my life. I never want to hear that again. I never went over to look, but one of our party did. He said it almost made him quit bear hunting. Oh, yes... it was all pefectly legal...a group of hunters standing around when the sow and cubs bounded into them. One shot the sow, and while she was dying, she treed the cubs and the rest of the group shot them. Great sport, huh............
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Old 11-24-2006 | 09:27 PM
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I never saw it personally because I knew what was going on, but I heard a mother and three cubs being shot at the same time in a draw about 150 yds. from me three years ago. The bawling was something that will stay with me for the rest of my life. I never want to hear that again. I never went over to look, but one of our party did. He said it almost made him quit bear hunting. Oh, yes... it was all pefectly legal...a group of hunters standing around when the sow and cubs bounded into them. One shot the sow, and while she was dying, she treed the cubs and the rest of the group shot them. Great sport, huh............


Just reading that makes me cringe. Pretty sad.
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Old 11-24-2006 | 09:46 PM
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I never saw it personally because I knew what was going on, but I heard a mother and three cubs being shot at the same time in a draw about 150 yds. from me three years ago. The bawling was something that will stay with me for the rest of my life. I never want to hear that again. I never went over to look, but one of our party did. He said it almost made him quit bear hunting. Oh, yes... it was all pefectly legal...a group of hunters standing around when the sow and cubs bounded into them. One shot the sow, and while she was dying, she treed the cubs and the rest of the group shot them. Great sport, huh............ i also have friend who quit bear hunting because one of his buddys driving for bear shot mother ,then they shot the cub with her..

the cub was dead but mother was holding her stomach where bullet went in and was making a bawl sound like if you had a stomach pain yourself..

he said that haunts him to this day and he will not go bear hunting ..this happened 10 years ago..

i really think that some law has to be made that you cant shoot a sow with cubs..

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Old 11-25-2006 | 03:24 PM
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You know, reading these accounts really makes me wonder. I cringe every year when the gun toting rejects hit the woods. Honestly, I hunt mostly with bow but do take the gun out as well. I have nothing against gun hunters....until I hear this. I would be so ashamed to take a 40lb cub to a check station.

People just don't give a #$@! anymore about the animals they hunt. A lot have no respect for the land or the quarry they persue. Shoot first, ask later. Honestly, I can't blame the animal rights people from screaming.
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Old 11-25-2006 | 03:30 PM
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Didnt there used to be a law where you couldnt shoot a bear cub or a bear under a 100 pounds?

I think they changed it because they were finding cubs left laying in the woods. I'm not 100% on that though.
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Old 11-25-2006 | 04:11 PM
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Didnt there used to be a law where you couldnt shoot a bear cub or a bear under a 100 pounds?

I think they changed it because they were finding cubs left laying in the woods. I'm not 100% on that though.
the rules were changed on bear hunting cubs NOT because of a cub being shot and left lay..it was changed because it was good business for pgc..look at how many licenses were sold in 1970 when we left cubs walk..look at how many are sold now..

i can tell you for a fact, not many ,if any cubs were being shot and left lay in 60s or 70s..i was there and maybe, they would find 1 or 2 shot..the wco then was very close friend of our family..i drank beer with him and camping with him..

hunters then were much better SPORTSMAN,they took care of animals..today, i never in my life see so many goofy acting and nasty people in woods..

i was out on wednesday, 4 bear, yes 4 bear came out to my friend..he saw that 1 bear had 2 cubs running with her, he left her and cubs go..1 hr later a301 pd bear came out and he shot it..

now, thats a hunter in my book..

solution to this maddness is too allow baiting only like canada does or go back the way it was when i hunted with dad..

i get so mad when i hear hunter say,OH I THOUGHT BEAR WAS BIGGER GOING THRU LAURAL..his bear weighted 39 pds..that size of a big raccoon..

trust me, this archery season for bear is going to be bigger than the regular bear season..why not, if you think that hunters are sitting in tree doing it legal for bear, i got bridge to sell you..most of those bear will be archery shot right next to HOMES, CAMPS,GARBAGE CONTAINERS,BAIT..

a bow makes no noise and crossbow is deadly on bear....sadly, there are hunters playing by rules on archery bear days but they are few in number..
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