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Once again,I never mentioned a thing about harvesting a deer.A comment was made about hunters hunting for 5 days and not seeing a deer.I hunted all accross public land in 2G last year and saw deer most times out and harvested 3.I also had way more opportunities to shoot deer had I chose.
There were days that I didn't see a thing but it's always been that way.I'm sorry but I don't see horrible hunting conditions in 2G except for areas that have poor habitat.In other words,yes it takes a lousy hunter to hunt for a week and not see a single deer around here.I hear people around here complain all the time and Ican't understand why people claim there's no deer.Twice I've listened to an outfitter complain about no deer.The guy claims that he's had 200 hunters over the past two years and they've killed 2 bucks.I don't even know how that's possible to have a success rate that low.

If people put in a reasonable amount of time scouting and find no sign,why do they hunt there?I guarantee that there's decent hunting not far away if you actually get out and look instaed of depending on the same stand site year after year.

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Simple logic tells me that anywhere in the Good Ole USA where there is a significant reduction in the herd the more difficult it becomes to find/see and harvest the remaining deer - DUHhh.

Logic also tells me when the huntin gets tougher(no deer behind every tree) take 2 baths and hunt harder and do it some where else if need be.

Knock Knock Anybody Home

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Can you imagine if a respectable person like a Game Commissioner or Carl Roe said something like that?

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AJ52 Dont let the chicken littles scare you away. Come on up to Pa and hunt. The north central part of the state wouldnt be my first choice but there is plenty of quality huntable ground open to the public in SW PA.There is a lot of private land and some is posted but most is not. Permission is obtainable to anyone willing to make a small effort on much of the posted ground as well. If you want to hunt SW Pa I can hook you up with some very good areas. Oh and doe tags in 2B are very plentiful.

If you want to hunt public ground with plenty of room to roam and a fair to good deer population, the Allegheny National Forest still produces for hunters who put in the time. I can turn you on to some good areas there as well.

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There you go, CH. A chance to drive around the gamelands, listen to PGC propagandaand receive a tour guide packet too.

:)

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[quote]ORIGINAL: deerfly

No, it just means one of two things. Either you aren't much of a hunter, or you are hunting a place where there aren't any deer which means you don't know squat about scouting. Bathing probably wouldn't help much.

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Well Dennis for your personal satisfaction I have taken this tour 2 years ago. These are my stomping grounds and although I am not familiar with all 42,ooo acres I have covered and hunted quite a bit of it.

You should come off your 28 acres and give it a try. In this country you have to hunt for deer. You just can't shoot them off your front porch.

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Crazyhorse,Treasure lake is open to hunting for the first time in almost 50 years this year so don't keep throwing that up.The majority of the land where I hunt is either state owned or owned bytimber companies an open to anyone.I have no private honey holes where I have exclusive access.I hunt all over 2G and never have a problem finding deer.Ask Joe Neville to look up the report cards I sent in last year.You'll find 2 successful dmap report cards and one buck harvest all on land open to anyone.Instead ofcrying about it,I go out and find where the deer are.

I worked tirelessly over the past three years trying get get a hunt established in Treasure lake.We were successful in doing so and now 2200 acres is open to hunting that hasn't been open in decades.What have you done lately toensure more land gets opened?By the way,it isn't open just for residents.I could have pushed to make itnoting more than a private hunting club but I wanted to see people from all over get a chance to hunt it.Over the past two months I've recieved phone calls on almost a daily basis about this hunt and I've taken over a dozen complete strangers around showing them where to hang stands.I've alsobeen contaced by other guys(some from this board)and shown them good places to hunt on public land all over this area.Youcan sit behind a computer and type any mistruths you want about me.However,you have no idea the amount of time and effort I put into hunting public land and helping others do the same.SorryI don't see thesame doom and gloom you and your USP buddies see.Bust my balls all you want about Treasure lake but this is the first year myself and many other hunters have a crack at hunting it.2200 acres is more than what alot of state game lands have and I feel pretty good about being instrumental about opening up a piece of property that size.Hopefully if all goes well,alot more of the property will be opened next year and in the future.I have two dmap tags for Treasure lake that will most likely be filled by the first friday of archery season.After that,I'll start working on the rest of my dmaptags in areas of public land that have no deer.

Deerfly,I don't doubt that you're seeing less deer on your 40 acres but it's just that,40 acres.You can't compare that to the rest of the state or the rest of 5C for that matter.You complain about seeing no deer but you readily admitted two years ago that you killed something like 8 deer on that property,6 of which I believe were button bucks.Deer come and go on property that size and having up to 6 hunters will surely keep alot of deer out.Did the PGC let you down or did you let yourself down?

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In my opinion some of the problems stem from groups like the USP spouting ignorance on public hunting forums. Here's an example of what your rantings could have created.

Your USP continually portrays the PGC as a bunch of incompetent whatevers. Maybe we should be looking in the mirror and seeing that maybe the hunters are the ones to blame for most of the problems. Maybe we didn't pay attention for too long and now were panicing a little bit. Everyone running around pointing fingers trying to blame someone else.

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Puzzles me why some are obessed with where others hunt, or challenge them to come hunt on public land if they already have a suitable place to hunt deer. Almost sounds like some sorta Socialism at work, or perhaps it's just a manifestation of juvenile jealousy?

If I have a "honey hole" now, pretty sure I didn't haveone back in the 60s and mid-70s, when it was a treat to see a handful of deer after hunting for several days. It's why we often drove several miles to hunt them back then. What a unique concept: Going to where the deer are.

[8D]

BTW Hoss, haven't shot any deer off'n the front porch yet and likely never will. Too many trees out front to see deer crossing the fields and pastures. The woods out back offer far more opportunities, but as is often the case with such things, it's all in the timing.

:)