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Old 08-09-2006 | 08:05 PM
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I don't know if this was disussed on here before or not...But I was going thru the PGC site and found this list...I myself find this to be BS and against our constitutional rights...I knew of these laws but still find anger from the thought of these...I think it's time for the PGC to end and form a new wildlife protection agency that doesn't give them this much power...
These powers should only be allowed on SGL and with a search warrant of private and personal property..This is unlawful by our constitution yet they are allowed to do this....How may I ask and who gives them this much power and why does the government allow this when they took oath to protect the constitution??? If I was not hunting and was driving down the road and was pulled over cause I was just there and they pulled this **** on me to search my truck or personals just for cause... All hell would break loose if they tried it.. I would have my lawyer sue them *******s for a stunt like this.... Boil my bloods just thinking of this....


http://www.pgc.state.pa.us/pgc/cwp/view.asp?a=478&q=151035#901
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Old 08-09-2006 | 10:06 PM
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I don't know if it's still in process, but there was a court case in the works about many of the "search and inspect"articles in the PA Game Code. Generally, a guy was contesting that WCOs should not have a greater authority than allowed to civic Law Enforcement officers.
Don't know the case name to look it up. My father knows the guy, I'll have to ask him what he has heard about it's progress.
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Old 08-10-2006 | 01:45 AM
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FYI:
section 905 "assulting an officer" (if im reading this correctly) says

"if you dont like the way your being treated by said officer,,you can blast a few of his teef out with your fist and only be charged with a misdemeanor
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Old 08-10-2006 | 06:17 AM
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I am reading it the same way you are rem700man. If you are doing something wrong just kick the crap out of the officer and then while he is laying beside the road bleeding go get rid of evidence and all they can prove is you beat the crap out of the officer and you get a misdemeanor for assult. I do not mean for anyone to do this just funny how stupid they got it wrote up. But I can tell you if they ever try to walk into my house or cabin or search myself or my car they better have a very good reason and a very good lawyer becuase I will nail some butt to the wall in the court system. I cant understand how they are giving they yahoos with a platic badge more power then real law enforcement personal they truely got to deal with the scum of the earth and put there lifes at risk daily. But as lazy as the PGC is I really doubt they will try any of this they don't even envestigate poaching when several people report the same properties having over50 deer skulls piled behind the houses and I know for a fact I reported 2 houses in Elk county and 2 other freinds of mine reported the same 2 houses with perfect directions to the piles of skulls and other deer bones. Well sooner or later people in charge are going to see that the PGC is crap and is ruining PA hunting for everyone unfortanlt we hunters are the 1's that got to pay the bills for these fools with our hard earned money and our natural resources they are destroying.

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Old 08-10-2006 | 06:29 AM
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Maybe they were too busy looking for the mountain lion that you claimed to have dragged off the road.
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Old 08-10-2006 | 07:05 AM
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Nope they found it but they are to busy Destroying PA to give a rats crap about poachers or anything else. Actually wouldn't be surprised if the WCO knows the poachers personaly and ask them to do it to whip out all the does in in the 2G area since your good buddy who claims to be a WCO Dick I believe was his name (boy did his parents ever see the future) claimed to know everyone in Lake City, Elk county. Turn onto El Rancho road in lake city. The road that breaks down on the same side as the cematery and take about a100 yrd walk behind the houses you will find alot of skulls and bones. That is unless your buddy already let his "Friends" know they been descovered and help bury/remove them. I found them when I got turned around down in the big hollow right before you get into Forest county and happened to come out way up there by accident. I was courous so I decided to take a stroll behind some of the other cabins/houses in the areas and what did I find another pile of bones behind the house across the street. But I sure your buddy Dick as already dealt with this...lol PGC wants to kill all does I guess they are hiring poachers to do it for them now since they sure are not stopping them anymore.

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You and your buddy can say anything you want I know what i seen that day and i know what I pulled off the road and I never expected any member of the PGC to step up and say it now. they been coveringstuff upso long it is second nature to them.
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Old 08-10-2006 | 07:06 AM
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ORIGINAL: DougE

Maybe they were too busy looking for the mountain lion that you claimed to have dragged off the road.
Really? From my experience, they don't even do that.

I also can attest to the fact that when poaching is reported, they ask a few questions over the phone and that's about it.

I know a farmer that had a problem with poachers riding in his fields with a spotlite shooting at deer. This farmer watched them several consecutive nites in a row. He called the PGC each time asking them to come out to his property and stake it out. They wouldn't.

I have a good friend that witnessed deer being poached and called the PGC, gave them the info and the person's name and address. They didn't respond.


It seems to me, the PGC is more worried about who signed their hunting license and who didn't.
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Old 08-10-2006 | 07:19 AM
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right on smokeman, thats some grade A BS right there, violation of our constotutional rights is right!! that makes me sick



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Old 08-10-2006 | 08:10 AM
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Windwalker,Do you have any idea how big of an area each WCO has to patrol?Iwish more could be done to combat poaching but it's often hard for them to be at the scene.I've calledour local WCO a few times and he's always responded.I know for a fact that he just busted a guy that was seen hauling a deer on his atvout of season.He was on the scene but by the time he got there,it was too late.He didn't know the guy's identity but a year later,his girlfriend ratted him out and he was busted.

Trytan,No one with an ounce of common sense will believe that you actually dragged a mountain lion off the road.Sorry I don't buy it and Iimagine that anyone with three working brain cells doesn't either.Your story is a crock.Furthermore,there isn't a WCO in the state that wouldn't follow up on a tipwhere someone had that kind of evidence just sitting there.I know for a fact that R.S.B would be all over that like buzard on a gut-wagon.To question his integrity like like is completely out of line.Yep,the PGC is hiring poachers now.The B.S.that some of you crybabies come up with in ridiculous.Tell me who did you speak with?Was a WCO or just a dispatcher?

I wonder why someone would be dumb enough to leave 50 poached skulls behind their house?


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Old 08-10-2006 | 09:31 AM
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Well guys. About 5 yrs. ago I was driving down a dirt road during doe season. I was just coming back from a business seminar and was dressed in a full blown dress suit. I was driving slowly and "was" watching for deer when I came around the bend and saw a PGC get out of a truck to check these two hunters coming out of the woods. They had the road blocked so I was setting there when the other PGC guy got out and waved me around. I had my hunting clothes in the back seat and as I was going around the guys slaps the roof of my car and yells stop! I thought I ran somebody over so I stopped and rolled down my window. He came up and told me to get out of my car and show me the gun that was "hidden" under my hunting clothes? I said "Look at me, do I look like I've been hunting?" He blocked the road while the other one called for back up because I was being rowdy! I let them look at my clothes and refused to open the trunk and they wrote me a warning citation for no cooperating.
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