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VT_Hunter1980 11-21-2005 09:21 AM

Rather than quality deer management
 
I'd like to see QUANTITY deer management. I could really care less about antlers or bagging a buck that scores a lot of B&C points. I just want venison in my freezer. I'd be just as happy to shoot a smallish doe (if it were legal) as I would a 200+ lb 14 point monster.

Does anyone else have a similar mentality, or am I alone in my meat hunting ways?

Don't get me wrong, I have absolutely no problem with people who are after a nice rack. I would just prefer a high chance of getting any deer to a slight chance of getting a trophy deer.

rybohunter 11-21-2005 09:27 AM

RE: Rather than quality deer management
 
The 2 things are not mutually exclusive. MANY areas have lots of deer,as well asgood numbers of big bucks. The biggeest factor in determining the quantity of deer is habitat. Lots of deer need lots of food. Not all places can support that.

VT_Hunter1980 11-21-2005 09:35 AM

RE: Rather than quality deer management
 
We have plenty of carrying capacity left in Vermont. Of course the winters are probably a huge limiting factor.

jf5 11-21-2005 09:49 AM

RE: Rather than quality deer management
 

ORIGINAL: VT_Hunter1980

I'd like to see QUANTITY deer management. I could really care less about antlers or bagging a buck that scores a lot of B&C points. I just want venison in my freezer. I'd be just as happy to shoot a smallish doe (if it were legal) as I would a 200+ lb 14 point monster.

Does anyone else have a similar mentality, or am I alone in my meat hunting ways?

Don't get me wrong, I have absolutely no problem with people who are after a nice rack. I would just prefer a high chance of getting any deer to a slight chance of getting a trophy deer.
I understand what you mean. And QTY vs Quality is a personal choice.

But I don't know any deer hunter just as happy to shoot a smal doe as they would a 14 point buck ;)

VT_Hunter1980 11-21-2005 10:01 AM

RE: Rather than quality deer management
 

ORIGINAL: jf5


ORIGINAL: VT_Hunter1980

I'd like to see QUANTITY deer management. I could really care less about antlers or bagging a buck that scores a lot of B&C points. I just want venison in my freezer. I'd be just as happy to shoot a smallish doe (if it were legal) as I would a 200+ lb 14 point monster.

Does anyone else have a similar mentality, or am I alone in my meat hunting ways?

Don't get me wrong, I have absolutely no problem with people who are after a nice rack. I would just prefer a high chance of getting any deer to a slight chance of getting a trophy deer.
I understand what you mean. And QTY vs Quality is a personal choice.

But I don't know any deer hunter just as happy to shoot a smal doe as they would a 14 point buck ;)
Actually, the best tasting venison I've ever had was from a very small doe taken during bow season. It was like free range veal.

jf5 11-21-2005 10:17 AM

RE: Rather than quality deer management
 

ORIGINAL: VT_Hunter1980


ORIGINAL: jf5


ORIGINAL: VT_Hunter1980

I'd like to see QUANTITY deer management. I could really care less about antlers or bagging a buck that scores a lot of B&C points. I just want venison in my freezer. I'd be just as happy to shoot a smallish doe (if it were legal) as I would a 200+ lb 14 point monster.

Does anyone else have a similar mentality, or am I alone in my meat hunting ways?

Don't get me wrong, I have absolutely no problem with people who are after a nice rack. I would just prefer a high chance of getting any deer to a slight chance of getting a trophy deer.
I understand what you mean. And QTY vs Quality is a personal choice.

But I don't know any deer hunter just as happy to shoot a smal doe as they would a 14 point buck ;)
Actually, the best tasting venison I've ever had was from a very small doe taken during bow season. It was like free range veal.
I agree 100% that a small doe eats better than an old buck any day. I have taken my share of "vealison". I still would rather shoot a big buck, or better yet, one each. LOL

rybohunter 11-21-2005 10:32 AM

RE: Rather than quality deer management
 

Of course the winters are probably a huge limiting factor.

Then you don't have a huge carrying capacity.

jf5 11-21-2005 10:41 AM

RE: Rather than quality deer management
 

ORIGINAL: rybohunter


Of course the winters are probably a huge limiting factor.

Then you don't have a huge carrying capacity.
Unfortunatly, that is the case. VT managed its deer herd for quantity for decades and it did not work out well in the long run.

VT_Hunter1980 11-21-2005 11:03 AM

RE: Rather than quality deer management
 

ORIGINAL: rybohunter


Of course the winters are probably a huge limiting factor.

Then you don't have a huge carrying capacity.
Then why is it that places like Minnesota and the northern penisula of Michigan also have tough winters, but much better deer herds?

Apparently, it wasn't always this way in Vermont. My father, and most other old timers, tell me stories of seeing up to 20 deer in a day of hunting. I usually see a doe or two every other season. What happened to result in such a downward spiral?

I know Vermont will never have the seemingly limitless amount of deer that places like PA and TX seem to have, but we can certainly accomodate a lot more deer than we have now.

Lefty26 11-21-2005 11:12 AM

RE: Rather than quality deer management
 
I eat large amounts of deer meat, practicly live on the stuff so quantity is important to me. With that said I still try to shoot big bucks, I let most of the small bucks walk and shoot a lot of does. I usually take5+ does a year and 1 or 2 bucks. Living in MD we have plenty of quantity, quality you have to work for a little bit.


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