taking a dead buck
#22
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Ohio
Posts: 7,876
There are other animals you better not be found with parts of and they are very strict about it. A dead snow owl comes to mind because I saw one once, never touched it. Damn shame, it was beautiful. We got eagles around here now, better not even piss on the land they live on. Strict laws with hefty consequences that just make picking some dead thing up not worth it. With that though comes consequences, I won't kill a wounded animal if I'm not going to tag it, just walk away. Not my fault and it sure isn't worth the trouble. With the new call in tagging system the State of Oh is giving me a little more respect by relaxing the notion that I'm a poacher and must prove I'm not. I do appreciate that. Call in's great IMO.
This is how bad it is, I must have the tag (a given) a pencil (ok) and a sting to tie it on, that's rediculous and don't be caught without it. I also MUST fill out the tag as soon as I'm close enough to touch it and afix it with the string before doing anything else. That's just plain insulting. Makes you feel like you'd better have that pencil,paper and string out in your trembling hands before getting to close and heaven forbid you stumble over it first.
I heard of this one guy recently that shot a very nice buck, because of the way thing are these days he tagged it and called the local dnr agent to come verify the whole thing. That really takes the life out of hunting for me when it comes to that. I hope the agent at least filled his tag out so he didn't have to take it to the check station and again get the states OK.
Most problems occur because hunters have big mouths so avoiding most problems seem easy. The dnr frowns on lieing, better be able to prove you found all those racks on your own land. Again your guilty till you prove your innocent and your tag is your proof. Makes me wonder how long documentation needs to be kept. Never really looked at the stuff like it was security box fodder but I guess it is.
#23
Spike
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 41
Laws vary from state to state, if I went to call in a spike here in Illinois the DNR would laugh at me. It all depends on where you are at and the attitude of the officer in your zone. In mine, calling in a buck would be absolutely useless unless it was close to some sort of record. The DNR is way to busy to be dealing with this around me and will tell you when you call in and IF (and thats a big if) you get a hold of them they just won't care. The DNR knows the difference between a freshly killed deer that was poached and one that was killed 4 months ago that you will do a european mount on. There looking for poachers, not someone taking a walk in the spring.
I'm taking it that you have every tag of every deer you have every shot in your life still attached to the antler, because if you didn't then how do we know they weren't poached? I guess that would be breaking the law if you took the tag off an antler at anytime, but last time I check, I have seen very few mounted deer on peoples walls, in stores and such with tags still attached.
Please don't preach us on advice to give and "Getting our act together", you do not know what state we are in or the situation of our local DNR, we are telling our opinions, not what the laws of his state our. The vast majority of hunters on here are law abiding citizens giving there opinions and help out fellow hunter and work to promote the sport more than most.
I'm taking it that you have every tag of every deer you have every shot in your life still attached to the antler, because if you didn't then how do we know they weren't poached? I guess that would be breaking the law if you took the tag off an antler at anytime, but last time I check, I have seen very few mounted deer on peoples walls, in stores and such with tags still attached.
Please don't preach us on advice to give and "Getting our act together", you do not know what state we are in or the situation of our local DNR, we are telling our opinions, not what the laws of his state our. The vast majority of hunters on here are law abiding citizens giving there opinions and help out fellow hunter and work to promote the sport more than most.
So they may not be actively trying to stop you from taking a found deer, but it will be an issue if they discover that spike buck in your possession in the course of another investigation.
At a minimum, you should document the day/time you called the DNR to report the spike, even if they do not issue you a tag.
The DNR can laugh about you calling it in because they won't be the ones getting in trouble when you are caught with an untagged deer.
#24
I was told by the Wisconsin DNR that you may take any skull that shows obvious signs of decay ( bone? )
However, if the kill is recent you need to call them to investigate before issuing a tag...
When hunting Illinois a few years back, a farmer I was hunting ons land found a dead 150 class buck that was deteriated to bone. He called the DNR as is the law down there, all racks must have tags and the warden came out said it was probably poached and confinscated it... I think he just wanted the rack.
However, if the kill is recent you need to call them to investigate before issuing a tag...
When hunting Illinois a few years back, a farmer I was hunting ons land found a dead 150 class buck that was deteriated to bone. He called the DNR as is the law down there, all racks must have tags and the warden came out said it was probably poached and confinscated it... I think he just wanted the rack.
#25
This topic is debated all the time and at all the deer camps. People will do what they want to do. As hunters we should have the integrity to do what is right when no one is looking.
Honest people will follow the rules anyhow. If you want to take the chance and not report it, be my guest. But down the road when a game warden is trying to bust a poaching ring and they want to search your barn, do not complain about it. Wasn't it last year they busted a huge ring out west who had a barn full of heads? Who's to say you didn't poach it in the fall and just secure it someplace and wait till now to say "Oh, look at what I found!"
Honest people will follow the rules anyhow. If you want to take the chance and not report it, be my guest. But down the road when a game warden is trying to bust a poaching ring and they want to search your barn, do not complain about it. Wasn't it last year they busted a huge ring out west who had a barn full of heads? Who's to say you didn't poach it in the fall and just secure it someplace and wait till now to say "Oh, look at what I found!"
#27
I recently came across my nov. 3 2010 bow kill on april 10 2011 here in nebraska. I called the game and parks, they had me bring it in and examine it. All that was left was the horns and skull with a backbone and ribs attached. He said if he could see a bullet whole or anything like that he is legally supposed to confiscate it. But he was nice and said he believed me on the bow kill and allowed me to take it home without a tag. They even scored it for me.
#28
In Ohio even a Landowner must place a hand made Temporary carcass tag on a Deer you kill on your own land, and then get the deer checked in just like any other deer killed that required a purchased tag. The State also has a new "Restitution law" where they can charge a poacher large fines. Bucks have a "base value" and then the price charged increases with the size of the rack.
So I would agree with others that you should make a phone call to the DNR to be sure.
Check out this guys fine.
http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/Home/News...lass-Buck.aspx
So I would agree with others that you should make a phone call to the DNR to be sure.
Check out this guys fine.
http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/Home/News...lass-Buck.aspx
#30
Spike
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NE OHIO
Posts: 13
In Ohio even a Landowner must place a hand made Temporary carcass tag on a Deer you kill on your own land, and then get the deer checked in just like any other deer killed that required a purchased tag. The State also has a new "Restitution law" where they can charge a poacher large fines. Bucks have a "base value" and then the price charged increases with the size of the rack.
So I would agree with others that you should make a phone call to the DNR to be sure.
Check out this guys fine.
http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/Home/News...lass-Buck.aspx
So I would agree with others that you should make a phone call to the DNR to be sure.
Check out this guys fine.
http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/Home/News...lass-Buck.aspx
This buck was found last year not far from where i hunt. It is called the "Sweetie Buck" Richards brother showed me some of the pics they had taken right after they found it. What a huge buck!!! They were afraid that the state was going to keep it. here is a link to the article in field and stream.
http://www.fieldandstream.com/photos...ode-1001368896
Last edited by HuntandFishOHIO; 07-25-2011 at 07:36 PM. Reason: added the name of the buck