Land owner problem
11-11-2010, 07:07 PM
#21
Fork Horn
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Schofield, WI
Posts: 135
To Hoyt 21:
Unlike Texas (Im guessing from your picture that is where your from) the Wisconsin deer population has suffered quite a bit the past couple years. When a lot of people rely on the venison to put food on the table they aren't going to pass up the opportunity. Lets say that you go out and don't see deer the whole time until the last day when a forker walks by. Do you expect him to pass on it and eat his tag instead of providing food for the family? IMO its his choice on what he wants to shoot and his neighbor, although it isn't the way he hunts, should accept the fact that people hunt for different reasons. This gentleman has had health problems and loves hunting in general. If he has the time of his life taking what others view as a little buck, then nobody should be putting him down or attempting to prevent him from taking a deer the next year. How do you think his neighbor would feel if the situation was reversed?
Sorry for the long post but its angers me when people get mad at what others shoot on their own land. I'd be happy for him and would enjoy sharing the moment with him and hearing his deer hunting stories.
Unlike Texas (Im guessing from your picture that is where your from) the Wisconsin deer population has suffered quite a bit the past couple years. When a lot of people rely on the venison to put food on the table they aren't going to pass up the opportunity. Lets say that you go out and don't see deer the whole time until the last day when a forker walks by. Do you expect him to pass on it and eat his tag instead of providing food for the family? IMO its his choice on what he wants to shoot and his neighbor, although it isn't the way he hunts, should accept the fact that people hunt for different reasons. This gentleman has had health problems and loves hunting in general. If he has the time of his life taking what others view as a little buck, then nobody should be putting him down or attempting to prevent him from taking a deer the next year. How do you think his neighbor would feel if the situation was reversed?
Sorry for the long post but its angers me when people get mad at what others shoot on their own land. I'd be happy for him and would enjoy sharing the moment with him and hearing his deer hunting stories.
I really don't think I could have said it better brother.
11-12-2010, 05:25 AM
#22
Typical Buck
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: N/W WI.
Posts: 814
To Hoyt 21:
Unlike Texas (Im guessing from your picture that is where your from) the Wisconsin deer population has suffered quite a bit the past couple years. When a lot of people rely on the venison to put food on the table they aren't going to pass up the opportunity. Lets say that you go out and don't see deer the whole time until the last day when a forker walks by. Do you expect him to pass on it and eat his tag instead of providing food for the family? IMO its his choice on what he wants to shoot and his neighbor, although it isn't the way he hunts, should accept the fact that people hunt for different reasons. This gentleman has had health problems and loves hunting in general. If he has the time of his life taking what others view as a little buck, then nobody should be putting him down or attempting to prevent him from taking a deer the next year. How do you think his neighbor would feel if the situation was reversed?
Sorry for the long post but its angers me when people get mad at what others shoot on their own land. I'd be happy for him and would enjoy sharing the moment with him and hearing his deer hunting stories.
Unlike Texas (Im guessing from your picture that is where your from) the Wisconsin deer population has suffered quite a bit the past couple years. When a lot of people rely on the venison to put food on the table they aren't going to pass up the opportunity. Lets say that you go out and don't see deer the whole time until the last day when a forker walks by. Do you expect him to pass on it and eat his tag instead of providing food for the family? IMO its his choice on what he wants to shoot and his neighbor, although it isn't the way he hunts, should accept the fact that people hunt for different reasons. This gentleman has had health problems and loves hunting in general. If he has the time of his life taking what others view as a little buck, then nobody should be putting him down or attempting to prevent him from taking a deer the next year. How do you think his neighbor would feel if the situation was reversed?
Sorry for the long post but its angers me when people get mad at what others shoot on their own land. I'd be happy for him and would enjoy sharing the moment with him and hearing his deer hunting stories.
11-12-2010, 05:58 AM
#23
Typical Buck
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: N/W WI.
Posts: 814
Heres my two cents again from your last thread:
Well if you get your deer every year and that’s the whole point you just explained in your last thread, then maybe you’re the problem as well. Maybe he’s trying to manage a deer herd so he can take quality mature bucks like the majority of us want to. Doe are a great way of filling your freezer as well and it also helps manage the herd in the area. This guy is trying to manage deer herd and grow mature bucks and then on the other hand your filling your freezers with whatever crosses the fence. So that might be the source of the problem. Talk to the guy come to an agreement if you’re tired of him doing what he’s doing. I'm sure he’s not out there doing what he’s doing to do it for hell of it. As I am one of those guys that love to kill doe for meat and try to shoot mature bucks and manage my deer herd for the better. You own your land you pay your taxes... well good for you. Maybe it’s your pride and ego that’s the problem too. Dont be so bitter over it. It’s not going to fix the problem. I’m not trying to be dick but I hate when immature deer are killed to fill freezers when there are plenty of doe out there to do it with. You also will put more meat in the freezer when you kill that buck. (Mature, Management) It's a new day and age of hunting and you have to understand that. You have every right to kill what you want, but Intel you actually see it his way too, you guys will keep in this state of bickering and you will not enjoy your hunting. Good Hunting
Well if you get your deer every year and that’s the whole point you just explained in your last thread, then maybe you’re the problem as well. Maybe he’s trying to manage a deer herd so he can take quality mature bucks like the majority of us want to. Doe are a great way of filling your freezer as well and it also helps manage the herd in the area. This guy is trying to manage deer herd and grow mature bucks and then on the other hand your filling your freezers with whatever crosses the fence. So that might be the source of the problem. Talk to the guy come to an agreement if you’re tired of him doing what he’s doing. I'm sure he’s not out there doing what he’s doing to do it for hell of it. As I am one of those guys that love to kill doe for meat and try to shoot mature bucks and manage my deer herd for the better. You own your land you pay your taxes... well good for you. Maybe it’s your pride and ego that’s the problem too. Dont be so bitter over it. It’s not going to fix the problem. I’m not trying to be dick but I hate when immature deer are killed to fill freezers when there are plenty of doe out there to do it with. You also will put more meat in the freezer when you kill that buck. (Mature, Management) It's a new day and age of hunting and you have to understand that. You have every right to kill what you want, but Intel you actually see it his way too, you guys will keep in this state of bickering and you will not enjoy your hunting. Good Hunting
I am not "Bitter" or have an "ego" problem. I just want to enjoy the outdoors w/o problems from this guy. I have tried to make peace and he lies to me about what is going on. I had suspicions about what he was doing but until I caught him dumping his **** on the stand with me in it, I had no proof. In my healthier day's things may have been different for him, but now I am at his mercy.
Kinda sad isn't it? Why do some want to own the deer herd and bully those who don't think the way they do. Why do some want to manage their land and also want to manage all the neighbors too? Why would a man pick on a neighbor who has limited days left in the field and make his hunting miserable? I feel, GREED, is the problem and alot of it has to do with the break down of the reasons we hunted deer and the traditions, deer hunters used to hold dear to their hearts. We used to hunt deer and enjoy our friends and relatives company, now it seems bigger bucks, and record books are all that matters. Hunters are breaking the law and abusing other hunters, just to better their standing. Is this what Hunters want? Not me!
I know not all hunters are this way but it has changed a great deal in my life time.
11-12-2010, 09:16 AM
#24
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 21,193
I too own land in Northern Wisconsin. I live here, I pay the taxes, and manage my land. I keep my trails passable for easy removal of game and enjoyment of my land for walks and bird hunting. And I will shoot anything legal, that I want to shoot. I have no fence neighbors unless you count the federal forest. But if I did, it would make no difference. I would still do the same thing.
My theory on monster bucks.. if one happens by, lucky me. If a four pointer passes by... lucky me. If you want to raise monster bucks or hunt only monster bucks.. good for you. Maybe I can have one walk past me, or then maybe shoot his younger sibling.
If mr.mc54 wants to shoot small bucks all day long on his property. Good for him. I'd back him 100%. Even if the neighbors want to practice buck management measures. They do not own the deer herd. And it is not for anyone to say what someone should do on their own land.
It sounds like your neighbor has a real mental problem. I would leave him alone. If I saw him near the fence area I would have a talk with him and ask him why he pours stuff on the ground or ties garbage to trees. If he is not willing to explain his reasons to you, then he can stuff it. But I would photograph him doing his stuff and his garbage and the first time one of his bags blew over on my property I would be on the phone to him. If that brought no satisfaction, then it would be the sheriff''s department.
You hunt as long as you like and any legal way you like. Good luck to you. I hope you shoot a nice deer this year.
My theory on monster bucks.. if one happens by, lucky me. If a four pointer passes by... lucky me. If you want to raise monster bucks or hunt only monster bucks.. good for you. Maybe I can have one walk past me, or then maybe shoot his younger sibling.
If mr.mc54 wants to shoot small bucks all day long on his property. Good for him. I'd back him 100%. Even if the neighbors want to practice buck management measures. They do not own the deer herd. And it is not for anyone to say what someone should do on their own land.
It sounds like your neighbor has a real mental problem. I would leave him alone. If I saw him near the fence area I would have a talk with him and ask him why he pours stuff on the ground or ties garbage to trees. If he is not willing to explain his reasons to you, then he can stuff it. But I would photograph him doing his stuff and his garbage and the first time one of his bags blew over on my property I would be on the phone to him. If that brought no satisfaction, then it would be the sheriff''s department.
You hunt as long as you like and any legal way you like. Good luck to you. I hope you shoot a nice deer this year.
12-08-2010, 12:28 AM
#25
Fork Horn
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: kansas
Posts: 336
that is sad when you have to go through all that on your own land. its your land you can shoot what you want to.i know what you mean when you say you have limited days in the field my grandpa was the one who got me into hunting and always let me tag along on all the deer hunts and bird hunts with everybody. he is 86 and had a stroke 2 years ago and it sickens me that he cant go out with me any more the sad thing is when he was 83 he could walk as many fields as i could while bird hunting with me we did get out and dove hunted once this year hopefully i can take him on a hog hunt in texas the first of the year. and he can get something. by the way have you had any luck this year? would like to see pics if you have got one this year.
12-11-2010, 11:28 AM
#27
Typical Buck
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: N/W WI.
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My cross-bow (archery) season was ruined by his dumping deer-a-way along the fence line. Gun hunting, I did dump a very large doe opening morning at 07:15. When I got out of my box blind the Moron was set up thirty yards behind me. I dressed my deer out and went home. He just doesn't want "his deer" to come on my property. I'll be out there next year, God willing.
Last edited by mr.mc54; 12-11-2010 at 11:29 AM. Reason: spelling
12-12-2010, 04:34 AM
#28
Spike
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: South Fork
Posts: 45
You have a permanent stand 8 feet off the property line.
You say you have never had problems with other neighbors but have you ever built stands so close to the property line with them? If a nice deer is on the other side of the fence I doubt most hunters would respect that property line if no one was looking.
Like others here, I would like to hear the other side of the story. If you came and built a stand 8 feet from my property line, I would be upset as well. I would not do what your neighbor has done because I believe two wrongs don't make a right. Have respect for your neighbors. I'm glad you are not my neighbor.
12-12-2010, 05:00 AM
#29
Spike
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 70
As a landowner the problem seems obvious to me.
You have a permanent stand 8 feet off the property line.
You say you have never had problems with other neighbors but have you ever built stands so close to the property line with them? If a nice deer is on the other side of the fence I doubt most hunters would respect that property line if no one was looking.
Like others here, I would like to hear the other side of the story. If you came and built a stand 8 feet from my property line, I would be upset as well. I would not do what your neighbor has done because I believe two wrongs don't make a right. Have respect for your neighbors. I'm glad you are not my neighbor.
You have a permanent stand 8 feet off the property line.
You say you have never had problems with other neighbors but have you ever built stands so close to the property line with them? If a nice deer is on the other side of the fence I doubt most hunters would respect that property line if no one was looking.
Like others here, I would like to hear the other side of the story. If you came and built a stand 8 feet from my property line, I would be upset as well. I would not do what your neighbor has done because I believe two wrongs don't make a right. Have respect for your neighbors. I'm glad you are not my neighbor.
Years back when I was younger dad and I hunted bad genetics instead of monster bucks. This one idiot owned the land on two sides of ours, and treatied with a PETA freak on the third side of our land. It was a pain in the ass. They just assumed things about us, and completely ruined two seasons of ours. That is two seasons with my dad that I will never get back.
12-12-2010, 06:38 PM
#30
Fork Horn
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 127
There are always two sides to the story. I wonder if you are shooting young bucks. We have a QDM hunting land which all our neighbors participate except one. The neighbor who doesn't participate shoots between 4-8 yearling bucks every year and rarely if ever a doe. We just about want to strangle the bastard. We have done everything we can to make that side of our land unattractive to deer.
The. End.
Get over it.