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Old 12-26-2006 | 02:42 PM
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Mabe the state was being a little too proactive with it.Im a hunter,not a wildlife biologist.
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Old 12-27-2006 | 06:04 PM
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Hey guys! First time poster to the forum.
I agree with Bloodbro we have to start having the DNR prove to us that what they have done over the years is working or start a new plan of action.
It really comes down to is MONEY, whenthe DNR was talking about banning baiting in the state, thefarmers Co-ops & feed mills complained that it would put them out of business and the Dnr backed off.


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Old 12-29-2006 | 06:51 PM
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bloodbro,

Where did you get the informationregarding the mule deer as stated byGarey Bies?? If this is true it would sure make a great news story for some hungry reporter and hopefully open up some eyes as to how the dnr is handling things.


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Old 12-31-2006 | 08:39 AM
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Reporters always put what sells papers.That hungry reporter would screw it up.
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bloodbro,

Where did you get the informationregarding the mule deer as stated byGarey Bies?? If this is true it would sure make a great news story for some hungry reporter and hopefully open up some eyes as to how the dnr is handling things.

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Old 01-01-2007 | 02:18 PM
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Xlang74x,
I origanally got that story from http://www.caids-wi.org/ However, I backed it up with a couple emails back and forth with the Senator.
I have sent that pc of info, along with many other factual statements and storys to several media outlets, they tend to only print the crap the DNR release's. I write a colume for a local outdoor paper, and they even worry about offending the DNR and limet what they will allow me to put in.

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Where did you get the informationregarding the mule deer as stated byGarey Bies?? If this is true it would sure make a great news story for some hungry reporter and hopefully open up some eyes as to how the dnr is handling things.

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Old 01-02-2007 | 12:44 PM
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Booooo censorship!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-02-2007 | 03:50 PM
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The HRZ and EZ never will work unless they're trying to ruin hunting for years. It's a fact that trying to kill all of the deer in an area won't work.

The DNR saysthe numbers are too highbut has anyone ever thought aboutasking them about their counting procedures. I've seen them on TV flying over areas and the newscaster saying the DNR says the herds are too big and must be reduced. How does the hunting public know where that footage was taken? They don't, they could fly over refuges such as Eagle Valley near Cassvillewhich is thousands of acres that no one can hunt on. Yes there is a lot of deer there but it doesn't do anything for the hunter when they can't go in there.The same with the DNR counting deer tracks to get counts are they aware the deer do have 4 legs? Unfotunately probably not.

The Eradication Zone and Herd Reduction Zone is full of private land that the owners don't allow hunting or only a few people, relativescan go on. They own it so it's up to them and I understand that, the DNR doesn't. They can't force landowners to allow hunters in where the higher counts are so they issue a bunch of tags anyways and the public areas andsome privatelands wind up taking the hit in numbers. Yet the DNR will say the area or zone is over goal or capacity. It doesn't take a genuis to figure that out but it seems to be out of the DNRs grasp.

I saw more deer in the late 80's and early 90's than I see now. The DNR will disagree but that's a fact.
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Old 01-03-2007 | 05:15 AM
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Insurance driven
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Old 01-03-2007 | 05:41 AM
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As i drive down the freeway i see alot of deer in the ditch,but most are where the woods funnles to the fenceline on both sides.Makes total sence that deer feel safe using it to cross.Mabe a better/cheeper/more efective way to solve car kills on freeways would be to stop that situation with a physical barrier or cut the woods back some.Im sure highway crashes could also be cured the same way,and it would be a permanent fix.I still say defensive driving is the best way to fix it,but as long as our world keeps picking up speed,so will drivers.
That doesnt have anything to do with cwd or e zones but i think insurance companies should seek a lasting solution to there problem.
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Old 01-16-2007 | 05:17 PM
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I have been doing some background checking on some of these DNR bozo's who are ruining our deer hunting. As I have stated since this all began, I believe that Governor Doyle is behind Wisconsins "WAR ON WHITETAILS". I sure hope no sportsmen in Wisconsin are responsble for voting that Bozo back in Seems from what I have heard from DNR staff is you do not want to be caught talking in opistion of the CWD war if you want to keep you DNR job.
Enough of my rambling :lol: Here is the point, all the guys leading the WAR ON WHITETAILS are new appointees from Adolf Doyle...
About the Secretary of Natural Resources
Gov. Jim Doyle appointed Madison attorney and outdoor enthusiast P. Scott Hassett as DNR secretary in January 2003.
P. Scott Hassett
P. Scott Hassett, Secretary Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources.
Scott Hassett came to the DNR from a 22-year career practicing law in the private sector, primarily working on employment, criminal and environmental litigation cases.
Here is a photo of one of the Governors appointed warriors who is helping to kill Wisconsins great heritage of whitetail hunting:

A friend of mine who has been suppling me "inside info" Sent me some lenthy letters that portray some fustrations with the way Hassett has been treating the rest of the staff. Here are some quotes:
Within 90 days, I will announce a system whereby any citizen can contact my office to complain about a DNR employee’s behavior or attitude. Before the announcement, I will communicate clearly and firmly to employees about the business-like behavior that will be the norm. This new norm will help define the culture. There will be negative consequences for employees who don’t get it; there will benefits for employees who exemplify the new culture.
My employees will be accountable, but I have to say that I will also call out those who tell the unsubstantiated stories about the bad DNR. If I'm to hold my staff to a higher standard others need to know that I am no longer listening to the anecdotal stories without asking the tough questions. If you're making it up I'm going to find out.
To make it happen, DNR employees will walk in someone else’s shoes. If there are workers that fear for their jobs, their families and their future, DNR workers must feel that fear.
As you know, I’m an outsider in DNR. I did not come up through the ranks. I have a fresh pair of eyes. I try to ask probing questions and listen carefully. That comes from my training as a journalist and attorney. I also am a results-oriented person, and I have a mandate from the Governor to lead change in the DNR.
I have heard again and again that DNR is insulated from the world that others live in. As a result, I have heard that our personal contacts appear heartless and our decisions disconnected from real needs. That perception must change. If the perception is true, the reality must change as well.
Like any organization, we have to work to maintain good relations with the public, even when we're tired, frustrated or overworked. A few uncooperative staff or isolated sour incidents can kidnap our reputation. We are under a microscope. We need to help each other.
Is it just me? Or does this Dude sound a little threatening to unsupportive DNR staff? I read in the letters that these reports and letters came out 3 months after Adolf Doyle appointed him Secratary. [/b]
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