Mad at the Wisconsin DNR!! (CWD)
12-25-2005, 10:00 AM
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Mad at the Wisconsin DNR!! (CWD)
I am really getting P/O'ed at the DNR in Wisconsin useing CWD as an excuse for bad management, and bad safety.They are ruining the hunting in Southern Wisc. I started a board designed at exposeing whats wrong with there plan. If you are P/O'ed and hunt Wisconsin please stop by and sound off.
I started a plan to get the media to let the public know the facts. Each week everybody sends an email to this weeks "winner" who is a media spokesperson. I even made a form letter for those who don't have the time to write. Here is a link to the email the winner thread:
http://www.bloodbro.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=842&postdays=0&postorder=a sc&start=0
Here is a link to the CWD sounding off board:
http://www.bloodbro.com/messageboard/viewforum.php?f=35
I started a plan to get the media to let the public know the facts. Each week everybody sends an email to this weeks "winner" who is a media spokesperson. I even made a form letter for those who don't have the time to write. Here is a link to the email the winner thread:
http://www.bloodbro.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=842&postdays=0&postorder=a sc&start=0
Here is a link to the CWD sounding off board:
http://www.bloodbro.com/messageboard/viewforum.php?f=35
12-25-2005, 10:31 AM
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RE: Mad at the Wisconsin DNR!! (CWD)
Hey Bukmastr I Live Farm and hunt In the CWD Zone and I hear where you are coming from. But do understand what is is you are stateing I say pratice what you preach your doing alot of deer killing. Or is it managment? TJW
12-25-2005, 06:45 PM
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RE: Mad at the Wisconsin DNR!! (CWD)
ORIGINAL: TJW
Hey Bukmastr I Live Farm and hunt In the CWD Zone and I hear where you are coming from. But do understand what is is you are stateing I say pratice what you preach your doing alot of deer killing. Or is it managment? TJW
Hey Bukmastr I Live Farm and hunt In the CWD Zone and I hear where you are coming from. But do understand what is is you are stateing I say pratice what you preach your doing alot of deer killing. Or is it managment? TJW
Shooting mature bucks IS practiceing what I preach. I would like to go back to one buck per person per gun season and bow season. I can sit on the couch and stair out the window at all the guys killing every thing in the swamp, or I can go hunt.
12-25-2005, 07:30 PM
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RE: Mad at the Wisconsin DNR!! (CWD)
Hey bucmastr Did you or did you not shoot a doe to earn that Early TZone CWd Ten pt. We all Stayed out of the woods, so as not to push deer out to other hunters. During the regular 9 day season and after you dont need to earn A buck. So that is when we went out and Hunted the Big boys! You say you cant just sit their, but that is what we need to do to preserve our deer numbers. Until the DNR gets these crasy Ideas out of their heads. So if you want to be a leader in this movement to change the dnr start by changing your hunting pratices privet or public land makes no difference deer know no bounderies and yes privet or public they are still the publics deer. tjw
12-25-2005, 07:44 PM
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RE: Mad at the Wisconsin DNR!! (CWD)
You obviusly have different ideas of management than me. What we both need is to stop the DNR from ruining our herd. And your not helping the cause just going around trying to instigate fights with fellow hunters.
Go throw a rock through your neighbors window if you want to fight with someone so bad, us hunters need to stick together.
Anyone takeing mature bucks on public land is accomplishing a feat. However, with the new laws and regs, every button buck, and doe fawn,is getting killed that steps foot on the public land. And most of the 1 1/2 year old bucks. Shooting mature bucks is not cuaseing the problem.
I only saw one liveing 1 1/2 year old buck this season, and I also watched it get shot just after it went past me. Only the mature deer have been able to survive the month long season on the public ground. Next year there won't be any 2 1/2 year old bucks either, and the year after, 3 1/2 You are lucky enough to have your own land where you can make the rules. Where I hunt everything is getting slaughterd before it is even weened.
Go throw a rock through your neighbors window if you want to fight with someone so bad, us hunters need to stick together.
Anyone takeing mature bucks on public land is accomplishing a feat. However, with the new laws and regs, every button buck, and doe fawn,is getting killed that steps foot on the public land. And most of the 1 1/2 year old bucks. Shooting mature bucks is not cuaseing the problem.
I only saw one liveing 1 1/2 year old buck this season, and I also watched it get shot just after it went past me. Only the mature deer have been able to survive the month long season on the public ground. Next year there won't be any 2 1/2 year old bucks either, and the year after, 3 1/2 You are lucky enough to have your own land where you can make the rules. Where I hunt everything is getting slaughterd before it is even weened.
12-25-2005, 08:02 PM
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RE: Mad at the Wisconsin DNR!! (CWD)
Im not trying to start a fight Im just saying part of the soulution is to not shoot Does. And I think you agree with me on this but yet you shot one. Hard to keep the deer herd going if everyone shoots Does. So go ahead and be P/O at the DNR they wont care as long as you keep shooting does.
12-26-2005, 01:14 AM
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RE: Mad at the Wisconsin DNR!! (CWD)
ORIGINAL: TJW
Im not trying to start a fight Im just saying part of the soulution is to not shoot Does. And I think you agree with me on this but yet you shot one. Hard to keep the deer herd going if everyone shoots Does. So go ahead and be P/O at the DNR they wont care as long as you keep shooting does.
Im not trying to start a fight Im just saying part of the soulution is to not shoot Does. And I think you agree with me on this but yet you shot one. Hard to keep the deer herd going if everyone shoots Does. So go ahead and be P/O at the DNR they wont care as long as you keep shooting does.
12-26-2005, 05:58 AM
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RE: Mad at the Wisconsin DNR!! (CWD)
ORIGINAL: TJW
Im not trying to start a fight Im just saying part of the soulution is to not shoot Does. And I think you agree with me on this but yet you shot one. Hard to keep the deer herd going if everyone shoots Does. So go ahead and be P/O at the DNR they wont care as long as you keep shooting does.
Im not trying to start a fight Im just saying part of the soulution is to not shoot Does. And I think you agree with me on this but yet you shot one. Hard to keep the deer herd going if everyone shoots Does. So go ahead and be P/O at the DNR they wont care as long as you keep shooting does.
12-26-2005, 06:18 AM
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RE: Mad at the Wisconsin DNR!! (CWD)
Guys,
Its a little different in the public CWD areas. I too used to preach shoot does and let the young bucks go. But my population has been devistated by the heavy hunting pressure with absolutly no limets and a month long gun season. Yes, we need to shoot more does in most areas of the state.
The public marshs where I hunt had monster bucks every where a few years ago and a decent buck doe ratio. Now thanks to the wonderful DNR we can sit out there and just see cattails swaying in the breeze. I bowhunted every day of the early season, for nearlyone entire month, I did not see a single deer on the public land. I shot one doe on private land nearby to earn my T-Zone buck tag and shot the buck minutes later. I am only seeing a few mature animals, everything else is getting shot.
The DNR is trying to acheive 5 deer per square mile. We have about 30 hunters per square mile. They are the ones who screwed up the ratio's and herd in the 1st place. Now they are trying to fix bad management with worse management. How about not being so damn greedy and giveing 1 or two free doe tags to hunters who purchase a licence instead of trying to charge us for each deer we wish to harvest? We already paid for a licence to hunt, then they want us to pay them to manage there herd? Whats next, squirl & rabit tags at $5 each? I used to see booners on the public land every year, and pass on many Pope and youngs, now I would be happy to see one lousy 140 class.
Its a little different in the public CWD areas. I too used to preach shoot does and let the young bucks go. But my population has been devistated by the heavy hunting pressure with absolutly no limets and a month long gun season. Yes, we need to shoot more does in most areas of the state.
The public marshs where I hunt had monster bucks every where a few years ago and a decent buck doe ratio. Now thanks to the wonderful DNR we can sit out there and just see cattails swaying in the breeze. I bowhunted every day of the early season, for nearlyone entire month, I did not see a single deer on the public land. I shot one doe on private land nearby to earn my T-Zone buck tag and shot the buck minutes later. I am only seeing a few mature animals, everything else is getting shot.
The DNR is trying to acheive 5 deer per square mile. We have about 30 hunters per square mile. They are the ones who screwed up the ratio's and herd in the 1st place. Now they are trying to fix bad management with worse management. How about not being so damn greedy and giveing 1 or two free doe tags to hunters who purchase a licence instead of trying to charge us for each deer we wish to harvest? We already paid for a licence to hunt, then they want us to pay them to manage there herd? Whats next, squirl & rabit tags at $5 each? I used to see booners on the public land every year, and pass on many Pope and youngs, now I would be happy to see one lousy 140 class.
12-26-2005, 11:09 AM
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RE: Mad at the Wisconsin DNR!! (CWD)
ORIGINAL: Bukmastr
Guys,
Its a little different in the public CWD areas. I too used to preach shoot does and let the young bucks go. But my population has been devistated by the heavy hunting pressure with absolutly no limets and a month long gun season. Yes, we need to shoot more does in most areas of the state.
The public marshs where I hunt had monster bucks every where a few years ago and a decent buck doe ratio. Now thanks to the wonderful DNR we can sit out there and just see cattails swaying in the breeze. I bowhunted every day of the early season, for nearlyone entire month, I did not see a single deer on the public land. I shot one doe on private land nearby to earn my T-Zone buck tag and shot the buck minutes later. I am only seeing a few mature animals, everything else is getting shot.
The DNR is trying to acheive 5 deer per square mile. We have about 30 hunters per square mile. They are the ones who screwed up the ratio's and herd in the 1st place. Now they are trying to fix bad management with worse management. How about not being so damn greedy and giveing 1 or two free doe tags to hunters who purchase a licence instead of trying to charge us for each deer we wish to harvest? We already paid for a licence to hunt, then they want us to pay them to manage there herd? Whats next, squirl & rabit tags at $5 each? I used to see booners on the public land every year, and pass on many Pope and youngs, now I would be happy to see one lousy 140 class.
Guys,
Its a little different in the public CWD areas. I too used to preach shoot does and let the young bucks go. But my population has been devistated by the heavy hunting pressure with absolutly no limets and a month long gun season. Yes, we need to shoot more does in most areas of the state.
The public marshs where I hunt had monster bucks every where a few years ago and a decent buck doe ratio. Now thanks to the wonderful DNR we can sit out there and just see cattails swaying in the breeze. I bowhunted every day of the early season, for nearlyone entire month, I did not see a single deer on the public land. I shot one doe on private land nearby to earn my T-Zone buck tag and shot the buck minutes later. I am only seeing a few mature animals, everything else is getting shot.
The DNR is trying to acheive 5 deer per square mile. We have about 30 hunters per square mile. They are the ones who screwed up the ratio's and herd in the 1st place. Now they are trying to fix bad management with worse management. How about not being so damn greedy and giveing 1 or two free doe tags to hunters who purchase a licence instead of trying to charge us for each deer we wish to harvest? We already paid for a licence to hunt, then they want us to pay them to manage there herd? Whats next, squirl & rabit tags at $5 each? I used to see booners on the public land every year, and pass on many Pope and youngs, now I would be happy to see one lousy 140 class.
