Wounded Boar Charge
 

I have to admit, there may have been some "excited shooting" there at the end when I started moving off of the proverbial X, but it all turned out well. Every time I watch the video, I get a bit scared all over again, but I kind of like it. My wife was not pleased with the video. Apparently, I am not supposed to let the hogs get that close...as if that is a rule or something, LOL.
https://youtu.be/BwiFjyURA1M

I counted 5 definite hits out of the first 6 shots in the video before the really fast shooting and only found three wounds, two of which were a single through and through of the testicles and hind quarter. It is like the hog swallowed up the shots and sealed up...pretty cool and very disturbing. You can hear some of the impacts in full speed, but they stand out better in the slow motion portion at the end

You can buy fresh underwear from Walmart in the middle of the night, in case anyone was wondering.

The boar both taped and scaled right at 250 lbs.

I hope y'all find it exciting to watch. It was certainly exciting to have happen.

Poor thing just ran the wrong way.

Exactly, and IMHO with all that lead flying that pig had no idea where it was coming from and to call that an intentional charge is stretching it.

Great video.

IMO: The hog intentionally changed directions and came at DNS. That's a charge in my book.

Yep, wounded boar hogs will charge. The wounded 275 pound boar was lying on it's side as i approached. Suddenly the hog jumped up and came at me full tilt. Boar died about five yards in front of me. If my muzzleloader had misfired i would been had; that hog had 4" cutters.

Another boar answered the distress call of a wounded sow and charged me.

This gentleman was torn up by a wounded hog:

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/hogs...nded-boar.html

Nobody has said a hog won't charge, but just because one changes directions like that one in the OP video did doesn't mean it was a charge. We don't think so and you do and that is no big deal, but just each person's feeling based on what was observed. Saying it was a charge makes it a lot more interesting from the OP viewpoint though!

Not sure if I would call that a charge or not. I WOULD call it an "oh crap" moment. And from what DNS is saying, it WAS an "oh crap" moment :) Hogs are tough critters. That one was running dead from the first shot. If his rifle is dead on sight, then that first shot was a perfect quartering away heart shot. The 6.5 gren is a pretty mean little round. I doubt that hog ever saw him. It just knew it kept getting hit in the direction it was going so it changed directions.

Edit: And DNS, thanks for the Wally World tip but I always carry me a spare pair when hog hunting. Especially when it's with handgun :)

I agree and I love your edit, LOL!

That hog WAS NOT CHARGING! It was simply running blindly. Poor shooting caused this to happen. Put the first round in the right place and the hog goes 'flop". There are very few true charges, despite what people say and this wasn't one of them. Notice ow the thing was running in a looping pattern. A full charge is direct and not looping.

Yep, I agree, probably exciting and a bit scarey to the OP but not a charge.

Well either way, it's a nice Boar.:party0005:

I'll drink to that! :lmao::lolabove:

Flags ole buddy, you must not get much hog hunting under your belt bud. It aint often you get a "bang flop" on a hog. Nervous system interruption is about the only way. Neck or back (high shoulder). Otherwise they run. Damn tough critter is a hog my friend. Now yes I have shot several heart shot through the shoulder with my Big Bore rifles and Handguns or Slugs with a bang flop result but trust me. It aint that dang often that they don't high tail it for at least 20 or so yards. More than likely 50+. And I have shot well over 2000 hogs over the years with MANY various calibers and cartridges.

Now granted I will agree with you on the poor shooting on the running shots but his very first shot looked spot on perfect.

As far as getting "very few charges" goes, let me haul you to a few places I hunt them critters and you will change your view on that subject about as quick as you will have to change your drawers! I hunt a few places in Texas where them hogs are meaner than a Alligator with a toothache AND hemorrhoids! Same with a couple of places Bama and Georgia. Suckers are just plain old mean.

But I do in fact agree with you Flags on that one instance NOT being a charge. Trust me though, charges happen way more often than you might think. Hogs are a tough and very dangerous animal when hurt, cornered or just plain in a bad friggin mood.

I think if you shot them in the ear like flags and I do you would get a "bang flop" every time with just about any centerfire caliber and decent bullet you put there. I've certainly not shot 2000 of them, but every one I have shot didn't go a bodies length. That certainly eliminates any charge.

Okay ear shot (head) will produce a bang flop yes. But unless you have a great rest and lots of time to "squeeze" in you aren't getting a great head shot opportunity. That's actually a small target and always on the move. Not a shot I like to take in the field. Neck or high shoulder is my preference for a good clean kill shot. If for some reason I miss spine, I have a much greater chance of hitting vital organ or major artery (neck). Head shot's are either hit, miss, or jaw. Granted they are hogs and invasive pain's in the a$$ but I hate to see any animal suffer. Just prefer the highest percentage shot taken to insure it goes down clean and quick.

Nice boar, DNS.

Whether or not the boar was charging DNS, the net result could easily have been the same, a trip to the hospital or worse.

Yeah, i like to shoot hogs in the ear too. But you don't always get an ear shot. i've double lunged hogs that went over 200 yards. Out of the last 15-20 hogs i've killed only one bang flopped. He weighed 230 pounds and was hit right behind the crook in the front leg with a .530 round ball from my New Englander muzzleloader.

Whether it was a charge or just a 200+ pound bowling ball coming at you doing 25-30 MPH, unless you are an Olympic sprinter your options are limited. Kill it. freeze and hope for the best, move someplace else or invite topgun or oldtimer over to argue it to death.

I shot one head on, 7 x 57 R, bullet hit just behind the skull into the neck, traveled most of the length of the spine and exited out the back of the hump. That Hog went down in a pile. I walked back to my truck and got my young dog, figuring he could worry the carcass a little while I gutted it. When we got back my dog took one sniff and proceeded to try to eat that pig, starting at the rectum. That Hog popped back up and my dog grabbed that Hog by the back leg and they proceeded to go around in circles. The Hog finally broke loose and headed into the thick brush. The dog went in after it, after a minute or so the dog came back out and ran all they way back to my truck. I headed into the brush, really dark out, even with a light I could only see a few yards into the brush. I hear a snort from my front left, another from directly in front, another from my front right and decided the best choice I could make right then was to back out of that brush and join the dog back at the truck until the sun came up.

I wish I would have known Oldtimer back then, I could have asked him what those Hogs were thinking.

Every hog I've shot was out of a blind in South Texas with a rest just like bench shooting at a paper target and very simply if I didn't get the standing head shot shot I wanted I didn't shoot. The animals have their head down eating corn so there is no chance of missing or movement to cause a miss the way a hogs head is built! In or right below the ear is nowhere near the jaw in a hog as compared to the small area of an ungulate where that might happen. That is the only animal I would ever do that shot on though because of exactly what you stated and regardless of what I'm shooting at I take no chance on wounding something!

No need for your smartazz remarks MC! Also, that bullet might have gone the length of the spine, but it certainly didn't hit the spine to any extent or it wouldn't have got back up and run off! That experience you had is exactly why I shoot them where I do and they don't get back up!

I never use a blind when hog hunting, hence why I never take a head shot, well almost never. There have been a few times I had a good rest to help. And you would be surprised Top how many hogs get holes in their jaw, and yes just below the ear is jaw. Granted it's a bit further down on the head than a deer but not that far. Since I am usually on foot or kneeling beside a tree or bush I really don't have that steady of a rest so I go for the highest percentage (biggest) target. If I am long gunning (The AR10 7mm.08) then most likely I am prone with the Bi-Pod down. That would be neck shooting time. Of course if I have my "sausage maker" (.458 SOCOM) I'll bowl the sucker over with a shoulder shot. Those 300gr Horns tend to make a point :)

Friend you need a Drahthaar.

Drahthaar is a fine dog, most of the Hunters around here have one. I ended up with a Weimaraner (just to be different :) ). He was just a youngster then, but turned into a fine dog. Me and him were fast friends for many years. He was locally famous for his nose.

That's him just left of center.




I have three Terriers now, one is eye and ear dominant, one has a decent nose and sings like a Beagle and the third just loves to dive down burrows. All three are pretty darned good at convincing the Hogs to vacate the corn patch.

We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

A couple of villages over, two teenagers took a walk into the woods to make the beast with two backs. When they got finished, walking hand in hand down a forestry trail, a Boar charged out of the woods and opened up this youngsters leg from ankle to knee.

The mayor of the village insisted all on hands on deck and demanded that the offending Boar be hunted down and killed. We all went out, found a Hog and shot it and had a BBQ, everybody was happy except the poor dude just trying to get laid.

You can predict tendencies, but saying anything is a hard and fast rule is unlikely to prove true, all the time.

Flags is right about Hogs usually taking off in the direction they are pointed. They may circle around eventually towards an area they consider safe. Deer often/sometimes switch directions 180 degress and then take off. But like I said, animals can be notional and really no telling what is going to happen.

Many years ago I got a call late in the afternoon about a bunch of wounded Hogs that needed to be tracked down. The story was somebody hit a Hog with their car on the way home from work, which caused a traffic jam on this two lane highway. Cops show up and at about the same time the sounder comes back for their injured relative. Everybody panics and heads for the hoods of the cars, Cops open up with their Glocks. They managed to wound half a dozen Hogs and the Hogs finally left.

I don't have to go far to hunt hogs, we harvest 6-8 hogs a month out of the woods right around my town. People/Hog conflicts are rare, but then again so is lightening. I'm not going to stand under a tree on top of hill in a thunder storm. I'm not going to count on that Hog always running away from me. You bump into a twenty Hog sounder and they decide you are between them and where they want to go, the chances of being caught in a pork stampede are pretty darned high.

I put a road kill Deer out, just before dark, near where some Hogs root on occasion . When I came back the next morning, all I could find was a few tufts of fur and a couple of handfuls of bone splinters. I'm not going to call it fear, but my respect level for wild Hogs went up a few notches after that.

Mudpuppy, after seeing your posts I assure you, you would never have known me because I would have avoided you like the plague. I am particular about who I get to know I stay away from people who make things up to try to prove nonsense.

The feeling is mutual, I avoid people who try to build up their own self image, by trying to denigrate the people around them. I'm not real fond of their toadies either.

:lolabove: "I avoid people who try to build up their own self image " I suppose that means you can't look in the mirror.

Been forgetting to take our meds again have we? Alzheimers is a tragedy, especially if the victim hasn't clue what is happening to him. You have to realize you are grown man playing 14 year old girl games?

Your'e really stretching it when you say the shot would hit the jaw, as it would be way back from what most people would call the jaw area. Please tell me how if I aim where the reticle is placed on this pig picture how I'm going to shoot him in the jaw without being way off my mark. If I was that bad of a shot and hit the jaw I certainly wouldn't be aiming there, but shooting from a blind with a good rest it's like shooting at a paper target that doesn't move. The rifles I use also shoot under 1/2 MOA and in the type of scenario I'm describing it's much different than hunting from the ground doing spot/stalk like you're referring to.

Mudpuppy, from where I sit, you are the little girl playing games in order to have the grown ups pay atention to you.

I do believe that was my point. Some hunt from stands or blinds and have good solid rests so head shots are okay to take. But still hunting/spot and stalk is another world from that. DNS, many others, myself, very rarely stand or blind hunt hogs. Too much of a PITA with the ever changing wind directions and hogs will only SOMETIMES pattern where they come out.

Now, if you look on this one you will note that the rear of the lower jaw is not that far from a brain/brain stem shot (ear) and just a little raise of the head right when you start to squeeze off you will hit that instead of a brain. http://boarmasters.com/wp-content/up...placement1.jpg

I'm just saying, Top, that for me, I take the higher percentage shot opportunity for my own personal situations. If I have a firm rest and a "quiet" hog I will take a base of the skull shot but more often than not I don't have a firm rest so I'll take the largest target presented. Not to mention also I am usually hunting whole herds so I wait till there are around 20+ hogs before I start shooting. Trying to eliminate as many hogs as I can. Can't sit there and wait for a head shot when the shooting has started. Most of the places I go have brought us in to help eliminate hog problems. I get a ton of meat for Hunters Feeding The Hungry program and the land owner gets fewer hogs. Which is why I've taken so many hogs. Some of the fellas I go on these trips with have taken well over 5000.

Flags, you are correct, we will have to agree to disagree bud because I have seen my share of charges on my own personal self from hogs that haven't even been shot yet. Hunting thick bush, they will come out tusks shining trying to swipe anything in their path. Just seen it too many times to say that it doesn't happen. Is it simple escape? More than likely yes, but MOST charges from MOST animals are simply the animal trying to get away. Sometimes the hunter is in the way and the animal is going to clear a path one way or the other. That in itself does not negate the fact that it's a charge. You are trying to say that a "charge" is an actual attack when in fact, most "charges" are simply an animal clearing the escape route. There is a difference. Actual attacks are rare, you are correct in that fact but they do happen.

"Now, if you look on this one you will note that the rear of the lower jaw is not that far from a brain/brain stem shot (ear) and just a little raise of the head right when you start to squeeze off you will hit that instead of a brain. http://boarmasters.com/wp-content/up...placement1.jpg"

I would call where you're talking about the far back hinge of the jaw and not the jaw itself. That is a big hard area and if you missed and hit that area he's still going to go down from shock to the spinal column and that would allow another shot before he could get out of Dodge. I've never shot one more than one time and every one went down, but all were in very controlled circumstances compared to your style of hunting them on the ground in big numbers. I'm a long way from your numbers because they were always an incidental animal to what I was down in Texas to hunt and I've only shot one down there in about the last ten years on a turkey/hog combo hunt to get my Dad out one last time a few years ago before he died. Anyway, we're on the same page in that I was deer hunting when I shot all the hogs I have, so mine was not done on the ground looking for them and wanting to wack as many as I could like in your scenario. When you're up in the air in an enclosed blind hogs are pretty easy to shoot like I have done if you just wait for the right opportunity. If it didn't come it was no big deal when the quarry was actually a big whitetail buck down there, so I was pretty choosey on what I shot in the hog department. I know one thing and that is I never had to change my drawers because none were going to charge me while I was up in one of those Texas towers, LOL!

Hence why I always carry me a spare pair :biggrin:

WRONG again. Those are not charges. An animal in flight mode or on a death run is not charging. It is merely going in the direction it is facing. Most the time they don't even know a hunter is there. They are just fleeing the place they got hurt and they have no intention of mixing it up with what hurt them or scared them. Here's an example:

About 15 years ago I was in the thorn brush along the Limpopo River which is the border between South Africa, Zimbabwe and Botswana. We were hunting a herd of blue wildebeest and while in heavy brush got between a mating pair of white rhino. The brush was so thick we didn't even know they were there. The cow went straight away from us and the bull came straight at us. He finally veered off at about 10 or 12 steps. I was lined up on him with a 375 H&H and my buddy who was the PH was lined up on him with a 450 Rigby. Neither of us fired because dropping a rhino is a serious thing and the trophy fee alone can run over $50K so you don't want to shoot one just because it got a little close to you. While this was a little hairy, this simply wasn't a charge. The animal was merely going in the same direction his nose had been pointed when he got spooked. He had his head up and wasn't carrying it low to try and hook us with that front horn which is what a charging rhino does. So, he got to go back to his lady.

I had basically the same thing happen with lion in Cameroon too. Not charging, merely trying to get out of the area of perceived threat in a big hurry. 2 went one way and the 3rd came at us and flanked to the left when it realized we were there. Lion was on open license in Cameroon and I've kicked myself for not taking that cat for the cost of the trophy fee. But the past is the past. Bottom line, a charge is when an animal is going after the hunter to do damage to the hunter. A flight path is not a charge and I don't care if it is a hog, a rhino or a rabbit. Actual charges are very, very rare and this video is not a charge. That hog was in flight mode after a very poor first shot which looked to me like it was about 2 inches too low.

Superhunt, I have only killed 6 wild boars so far, like Topgun all were head shot from a stand with a good rest, the furtherest at 81 yards, all dropped in their tracks. I did spot and stalk for half a day one year and saw a bunch of hogs, or I should say parts of lots of hogs in the woods and could not get a shot I was comfortable with so I didn't shoot. However, we had a set of tripod shooting sticks, like they use in Africa and if I cold have taken a shot at a hog that gave me a head shot, I would have taken it, because those sticks were a solid rest. Maybe something for you to consider carrying with you.

Oldtimer, sticks are great for single hog hunting. When hunting groups they kind of get in the way. I use sticks when Whitetail or Elk hunting when I still/stalk hunt.

Flags, a charge is when an animal intends to go in a direction to which you are blocking it's path and decides to go THROUGH you. PERIOD. I don't care if it's in Africa, Egypt, or Alabama. You have false charges from MANY animals including Brown Bear (been bluff charged several times by them) Elk and Moose in rut (needed a spare pair there too) and many more larger animals. What I consider a "charge" is when said animal KNOWS you are there and continues on the same path intending to go over,through you. And BTW, if you don't believe animals have "moods" then you are sorely mistaken. Especially when it comes to wild hogs. They are highly intelligent creatures and very given to moodiness.

And how many times does one have to AGREE with you on a subject before you get it? I have said 2 or 3 times now that this instance wasn't really a charge just a blind run!

Wow, I get caught up in some family business and am AFK for a day and the thread blows up, LOL.

I have had hogs run by me numerous times, but none that were running away and turned around and ran toward me and then refined their route to actually running directly at me, covering more than 90 yards to do so. To me, that shows intent on the part of the hog. There were a lot of directions and places for that hog to run without changing directions and running directly at me.

Was the hog running blindly? No. First, hogs don't run blindly. They actually see fairly well and see better in low light than humans. The hog could see me. It was a bright enough moon for me to navigate to that food plot without using NV/thermal. The hog could hear me shooting as well.

So I am good with my opinion that it was a charge.

flags and a couple others disagree and they are welcome to their opinion. I have enjoyed reading the discussion. In the end, none of us are psychic and having any way of knowing the hog's true intent (flight, attack, or a combination).

Eh, Honestly DNS I think that hog just got turned by the few shots you got into him while on the run. And by "blind run" I just meant running on instinct not actual "blindness". But hey, you could be correct. I know if someone shot me in the jewels I would do my best to take his to the ever after with me :biggrin:

Ah! Very good. I am used to countering the myth of hogs having poor vision and that just isn't the case.

Last year in the next county a hog got cut up some by a farmer bush hogging. That same hog then seriously mauled some guy out on a nature walk. A Master Hunter, a Forester and a tracker with his dog, went after that hog. The Hog attacked the tracker and the tracker killed it with a knife. The Hunter and the Forester were afraid to shoot, thinking they might hit the tracker. The tracker was experienced (had been there and done that before) and had heavy leather pants on, so he didn't get chewed up much.

I'm not going to pretend to know what is going through a hogs mind, but this sure seemed like of some sort of revenge to me. Or maybe just a wounded Hog that turned mean as heck.

In the local area (maybe a 20 miles radius) 1-2 people a year get seriously mauled on average.

I take exception to the statement hogs have poor vision also. I had one old sow that would stay just at the very edge if what I could see through my scope in the dark. Almost like she could see what I was seeing. She actually left the path and took a detour through the woods, kind of an arch, just to stay far enough away I couldn't take a shot. She wasn't sniffling like she wanted to get my scent or turning her head from side to side like she wanted to pin point my position by hearing, she was looking right at me.

Maybe their eyesight is the lesser of their senses, their noses and ears are maybe better, but they seem to see just fine in dark.