my dad gave me his browning bar 30.06. it has a leupauld 3x9 but its too glossy(imo) to hunt with. it does not seem to give a great view.

i was thinking about a swarovski or another leupold. $$ is really not an object--but i dont want to pay for a high dealer markup. pls be specific on which scope. its mainly used for eastern deer hunting. i cant seem to find swaro scopes anywhere.

thanks in advance

john

This needs to go on the OPtics Forum YOur not looking hard enough if you can't find Swaro scopes anywhere. Dealer markup can't help you there I have no clue how much a dealer makes on any scope. Leupolds and Swaros have recommended selling prices ie pretty darn much fixed if you know what I mean. Swaro AV is top of the line if you want all features in a nice compact scope.. As far as what is better in lowlight conditions..everyone is pretty objective on this and the more you spend on a scope , lets say over 600 the minimal the gain will be. If you have a chance to try one out in lowlight conditions try it out..unfortunately I have been a lab rat in that respect and have had to buy scopes only to get rid of them on Ebay or elsewhere because I wasn't happy with them.

A Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40 should be the ticket and the best place to buy them is from Jon at www.theopticzone.com

That's what I use on a couple of rifles for eastern whitetails and I haven't found anything better, including the much higher priced Swarovski PH I once owned.

I would go with the Zeiss Conquest also...

try burris l.r.s 359.00 great scope

I'll have to agree with you on that!

THANKS FOR YOUR HELP.

I finally had the opportunity and got a Swarovski scope. Now I haven’t had the chance to use it yet but I have mounted on my rifle. Decided to get the scope with TDS recticles and hopefully will work very well with my 270 WSM.
I’ve compared my Swaro in appearance and details to my Leupolds, Nikon Gold and my Weaver Grand Slam and find that the Swaro just has something about that shines with quality. The finish on the scope is excellent.
The ability to rotate the power ring with ease is equal between the Grand Slam and the Swaro. I find that to be a factor when deer hunting in November and could get pretty cold up here.
I also compared the quality of the optics and found that the Nikon Gold to be very close to the Swaro but the Leupold lacks in that department. I have never had the chance to make any comparisin with the Zeiss Conquest but would be interesed in doing so.
I know that some freinds of mine think I’m nuts in spending that type of money on a scope but the end result is that I’m the one spending the money and not them, so it’s really none of there businnes is it.
I’m sure that after using this scope at the range and getting it ready for the season that I’m not going to be disapointed in my purchase. Good luck with the purchase of your scope.

Another source for scopes, etc. is SWFA;

Link: http://www.riflescopes.com/store/default.asp

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