Nosler Partitions?
#31
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From: Somewhere ND USA
Nosler Partition are awesome bullets. People should blame poor shot placement not the bullet. My brother fired a 180gr Nosler into a log at 30 yds from his 300 SAUM and the bullet still had 107 of the 180. The log had a 22in diameter. I would take a second look at that guide and like others said, keep an eye on him.
Why work when you can hunt???? Heck why work at all!!
Why work when you can hunt???? Heck why work at all!!
#32
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skeeter, I don't think anyone was banging on you. And it not cause these guys have different opinion. Its cause they made a statement that makes no sense. Take John Barshness, the outdoor writer, in handloader this month he did a comparison of Nosler PT, and several other bonded bullets. He had decent scientific data on penetration, wieght retention, and mushrooming. The nosler beat out all bullets, from ultra coreloks to onyx, to whatever. The guys made statements and at least tried to back them up or made a case. But when your friends say things so "matter of factly as self proclaimed experts" without much basis, they are opening up themselves for attacks. Thats why I try to say things like "I think" or IMO. No reason to be upset, I mean its only the internet. Nothing more. I don't think anyone expects you to call this guy and say "I can't have any other dealings with you". Its the stupid internet. Have a little fun. I used to also get mifted alot due to posts. Finally about 1/2 year ago, I said why. Its just a chat room.
#33
My guess is that the animals shot with the Partition bullets are running further than say from a Bal. tip or other lighter designed bullet that blows up on impact. If you get 100% energy transfer from a Bal. tip once it hits the deer chances are that deer is going to drop like a sack of potatoes. The Partition will most likely go through and you'll have to track the animal further since some of the energy is carrying the bullet through the deer into the earth on the far side.
In my opinion for deer or smaller Partition might not be the best unless you are shooting for the biggest deer. Now for Elk, I can't see the Partition getting a bad rap at all. Same for Bear. I woulnd't use anything but a premium bullet for either of the latter.
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In my opinion for deer or smaller Partition might not be the best unless you are shooting for the biggest deer. Now for Elk, I can't see the Partition getting a bad rap at all. Same for Bear. I woulnd't use anything but a premium bullet for either of the latter.
Power
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#34
If I came off mad, upset or distraut, that was not my intend. Sure I know some comments are made tongue and cheek, but to hear things like dangerous, stay far away, etc just b/c experiences or opinions vary is lauhable to me. I asked for your opinion and got it, I however did not ask for a character assessment, thus I responded no thanks to that portion of your replies. Hey I come here b/c i respect and enjoy your knowledge, so thanks again. I suspect their experiences are due to shot placement not bullet, but when they can only rely on the hunters story...hard to know what end is up.
So to my reply before, what bullet is best in your opinion for WT deer? I have to admit I like Ballistic tips and Boattails, we all have heard the knocks on them. I am looking to try a new bullet type, but not sure what. I have used Failsafes on Elk & Moose with good results, but my gun doesn't group great with them.
SO?
So to my reply before, what bullet is best in your opinion for WT deer? I have to admit I like Ballistic tips and Boattails, we all have heard the knocks on them. I am looking to try a new bullet type, but not sure what. I have used Failsafes on Elk & Moose with good results, but my gun doesn't group great with them.
SO?
#35
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From: Allen Texas USA
....for whitetail deer, in factory ammo, I think the Remington Corelokt bullet is almost impossible to beat. When reloading my 6.5 Swedish mauser, I use the Horndady 140gr bullet.. it has worked flawlessly on two whitetails of very different body size...one very small "frail" forkhorn, and a large, big bodied prime 11 point. Both bullets impacted at about 150-160yds, and both exited after jellying the lung area....neither heart was hit, but both deer dropped on the spot, kicked once or twice, and expired. You can see why I like, and recommend the Hornady. I've had good luck with several different bullets of theirs.
"Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness..those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." Santayana
"Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness..those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." Santayana
#36
The few deer I've harvested have fallen to either Remington Core-Loks or Ballistic Tips. My wife and I are now using handloads with Partitions but haven't shot a deer since 2000 so don't know how they'll work. Keeping our fingers crossed for this year.
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#38
Typical Buck
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From: OKC Ok. USA
I find it hard ro believe this topic. The Nosler Partition is the bullet all others have been judge by ever since it's introduction. It has taken big game all over the world and preformed well. For the most part it's one of only two bullets I consider (the other is the Trophy Bonded Bear Claw) that give me the accuracy and reliability downrange.
Also I can honestly say I've never recovered a bullet from and big game I've shot from antelope to black bear with a muzzleloader or modern high powered rifle. With shots from 15-350 yards all have passed completely thru with either a heart or double lung shot and never recovered,but can say the nosler has left some pretty impressive exit holes.
Also I can honestly say I've never recovered a bullet from and big game I've shot from antelope to black bear with a muzzleloader or modern high powered rifle. With shots from 15-350 yards all have passed completely thru with either a heart or double lung shot and never recovered,but can say the nosler has left some pretty impressive exit holes.
#39
I hate to beat this horse, I just read a post on the deerhunting forum, where I guy wouldn't use NP in a 300 win for deer.(topic deer cart. for 300 win.) Why, b/c he lost several, due to the bullet not mushrooming enough! Could this be the same reason? I know a great deal of the hunters use 300 wins....hmmm.
#40
Giant Nontypical
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From: fort mcmurray alberta canada
The partition does not fail to expand but does not expand as much as the ballistic tip.As a result deer shot with partitions will usually run a little farther than those shot with ballistic tips.If the deer were lost the bullets were not placed in the right place.The bullet is often blamed when animals are lost due to poor shot placement and since the animal is not found noone will ever know where the bullet really hit.


