220 Swift
#11
I have a Ruger 77 Mark II in a .220 Swift and I love it.A few weeks ago we went deer hunting in West River SD and I brought it along to use on turkeys and coyotes. However, my buddy brought only a 223. He knew it was the absolute minimum to use on deer and only took close range broadside shots. He filled one of his tags that way but ended up losing two deer withit. Again, only broadside, close shots.
So... the last day he borrowed my 7 rem mag and I took the Swift out, knowing I'd have to limit it to close shots. I ended up filling out my last two tags with it. One shot was angling away, the other broadside, but neither were over 60 yards. Both deer fell on the spot. One had a 2 inch tall by 3 inch wide coming out and the other was the weirdest thing: no exit hole, but after I cleaned it I found a hole in the exit-side ribs big enough to put a pop can in.
It's not my first choice for deer because I wouldn't use it at longer ranges and there's not as much room for error, but it will bring 'em down in a pinch (if usedin the right circumstances). Not a huge amount of lead, but there's a lot of powder (and speed) behind it.
So... the last day he borrowed my 7 rem mag and I took the Swift out, knowing I'd have to limit it to close shots. I ended up filling out my last two tags with it. One shot was angling away, the other broadside, but neither were over 60 yards. Both deer fell on the spot. One had a 2 inch tall by 3 inch wide coming out and the other was the weirdest thing: no exit hole, but after I cleaned it I found a hole in the exit-side ribs big enough to put a pop can in.
It's not my first choice for deer because I wouldn't use it at longer ranges and there's not as much room for error, but it will bring 'em down in a pinch (if usedin the right circumstances). Not a huge amount of lead, but there's a lot of powder (and speed) behind it.
#12
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Sep 2003
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Actually I think it does more damage atfter 150 yards ,giving that little pill time to slow some what. I cant tell you how much i like to shoot my swift. All of my range buddies want to shoot it but that is my baby.
I load hornaday v-max 40 gr. with 42.5 gr. of h414. perfect fit for my rifle.
I load hornaday v-max 40 gr. with 42.5 gr. of h414. perfect fit for my rifle.
#13
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ORIGINAL: aborquez18
Id have to disagree with that. Have you ever heard of the 204 Ruger? Well actually the 204 is 20 cal.
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The 220 shoots flatter and faster than any of the other 22 cal rifles
The 220 shoots flatter and faster than any of the other 22 cal rifles
I just do not want to purchase new cleaning rods, patches, trimmer pilot, bullets and ect that goes with the small caliber
#14
The .220 Swift is the fastest of the factory calibers. But the best of all is the .22-250 Ackley Improved. A little faster than the Swift, and a much better case design. If you load the Swift to maximum, you need to trim the cases a bunch every shot and throw them away after three reloadings.
#16
I guess I'm not surprised. Having owned several .220 Swifts over the years, I learned that it is a pretty low maintenance caliber if you load it at or slightly below .22-250 maximum velocities. But trying to get that last 150 fps out of it turns it into a real high maintenance caliber - mainly due to the case design. Long sloping body with a gently tapered shoulder - great for feeding, but poor for case life and other reloading considerations.
However, like the .300 H&H, it is an inferior case design that delivers very superior accuracy.
However, like the .300 H&H, it is an inferior case design that delivers very superior accuracy.
#17
Fork Horn
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: SW Virginia
The .220 Swift is a very interesting cartridge. I used it extensively when I was really into varmint hunting in the '50's and '60's. It is the old Lee Navy 6mm necked to .22 caliber. It has a semi-rimless design, so that the rim, which is slightly larger than the body, is about the same size as a typical rimless (.30-06, etc.).The tapered body and gentle shoulder slope do not lend themselves to high pressure friendliness. If one is inclined to load very hot, neck splits, and thickening can be a real problem. Originally, it was brought out in a factory loading with a 48 grain bullet so that they could advertise velocities over 4000 fps. But, in my experience, this loading was not very accurate. Using bullet weights of 52-55 grains (my favorite was the 53 gr Sierra hp), andloading for a velocity of about 3800helped the accuracy tremendously.
During those years, I also used the .22-250 (then a wildcat, made by necking the .250 Savage case to .22 cal) and found it to be easier on cases, but, in a quality rifle,no more accurate than a sensibly loaded .220 Swift. These days, I would probably opt for the .22-250 since cases are cheaper, and much more readily available, but, in its heyday,I truly loved the .220 Swift.
During those years, I also used the .22-250 (then a wildcat, made by necking the .250 Savage case to .22 cal) and found it to be easier on cases, but, in a quality rifle,no more accurate than a sensibly loaded .220 Swift. These days, I would probably opt for the .22-250 since cases are cheaper, and much more readily available, but, in its heyday,I truly loved the .220 Swift.
#18
The .220 Swift is an excellent, very accurate, and flat-shooting round which, at least in the old days, was factory-loaded top 4110 FPS MV with a 48-grain bullet. It is still about the hottest commercial .22 centerfire ever designed. It CAN be used for deer, if you use the right (tough) bullets, BUT NOT if you use varmint loads!! If you doubt this, read about it in the P.O. Ackley Handbook for Shooters & Reloaders in the chapter on killing power, which was written for Ackley's bookby a fellownamed Rosenburg.
It uses a lot of powder, relatively speaking, and is a very LOUD caliber! It is at least as loud as a .308, and much louder than the .223. It has a very sharp, ear-splitting crack due to its hypervelocity. And NO!! It cannot be fired without hearing protection, if you plan on keeping your hearing intact!! (Even the lowly.22 LR should not be fired w/o hearing protection, either, however.)
IF you are really interested in such things, I suggest you see if your library can get you a copy of C.S. Landis's book, ".22 Caliber Varmint Rifles". Also, there's a lot of good info in the Wolfe Pub. Co.'s compilation of letters entitled "Yours Truly, Harvey Donaldson".[/b]
Have fun!
It uses a lot of powder, relatively speaking, and is a very LOUD caliber! It is at least as loud as a .308, and much louder than the .223. It has a very sharp, ear-splitting crack due to its hypervelocity. And NO!! It cannot be fired without hearing protection, if you plan on keeping your hearing intact!! (Even the lowly.22 LR should not be fired w/o hearing protection, either, however.)
IF you are really interested in such things, I suggest you see if your library can get you a copy of C.S. Landis's book, ".22 Caliber Varmint Rifles". Also, there's a lot of good info in the Wolfe Pub. Co.'s compilation of letters entitled "Yours Truly, Harvey Donaldson".[/b]
Have fun!
#19
Fork Horn
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From: SW Virginia
ORIGINAL: eldeguello
The .220 Swift is an excellent, very accurate, and flat-shooting round which, at least in the old days, was factory-loaded top 4110 FPS MV with a 48-grain bullet. It is still about the hottest commercial .22 centerfire ever designed. It CAN be used for deer, if you use the right (tough) bullets, BUT NOT if you use varmint loads!! If you doubt this, read about it in the P.O. Ackley Handbook for Shooters & Reloaders in the chapter on killing power, which was written for Ackley's bookby a fellownamed Rosenburg.
It uses a lot of powder, relatively speaking, and is a very LOUD caliber! It is at least as loud as a .308, and much louder than the .223. It has a very sharp, ear-splitting crack due to its hypervelocity. And NO!! It cannot be fired without hearing protection, if you plan on keeping your hearing intact!! (Even the lowly.22 LR should not be fired w/o hearing protection, either, however.)
IF you are really interested in such things, I suggest you see if your library can get you a copy of C.S. Landis's book, ".22 Caliber Varmint Rifles". Also, there's a lot of good info in the Wolfe Pub. Co.'s compilation of letters entitled "Yours Truly, Harvey Donaldson".[/b]
Have fun!
The .220 Swift is an excellent, very accurate, and flat-shooting round which, at least in the old days, was factory-loaded top 4110 FPS MV with a 48-grain bullet. It is still about the hottest commercial .22 centerfire ever designed. It CAN be used for deer, if you use the right (tough) bullets, BUT NOT if you use varmint loads!! If you doubt this, read about it in the P.O. Ackley Handbook for Shooters & Reloaders in the chapter on killing power, which was written for Ackley's bookby a fellownamed Rosenburg.
It uses a lot of powder, relatively speaking, and is a very LOUD caliber! It is at least as loud as a .308, and much louder than the .223. It has a very sharp, ear-splitting crack due to its hypervelocity. And NO!! It cannot be fired without hearing protection, if you plan on keeping your hearing intact!! (Even the lowly.22 LR should not be fired w/o hearing protection, either, however.)
IF you are really interested in such things, I suggest you see if your library can get you a copy of C.S. Landis's book, ".22 Caliber Varmint Rifles". Also, there's a lot of good info in the Wolfe Pub. Co.'s compilation of letters entitled "Yours Truly, Harvey Donaldson".[/b]
Have fun!
#20
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Sidebar. I enjoyed reading the posts on the Swift and can only add.....If you haven't owned one, you will forever wonder why all the other 224 calibers compare themselves to this outstanding caliber. Now, they are a bit finicky.....it takes a little time and effort to find the proper bullet/powder and primer for your particular rifle. My Swift is a HVA Mauser with a 24in Shilen barrel with a 1 in 14 twist. It took me nearly a year to find the powder it likes.....IMR4064. Start there and you will be amazed....I'm not a speed freak but 4020'/sec and 1/2 inch groups pushing a 52gr Sierra Match King with a Win primer gets it done. The 220 Swift is the 30'06 of the varmiteers. Regards, Rick.




