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North Texan 02-02-2005 03:40 PM

RE: Inferior Rounds
 
BuckMaster, your reasons aren't bad but your logic is flawed. Your making the assumption ballistics is the only consideration when choosing a caliber. If that were the case, my .223, 25-06, and 30-30 would all be a thing of the past. There is a .223WSSM and a 25WSSM to replace my first to. The 30-30, well it was passed by other .30 calibers ballistically 100 years ago. So why own them? Because I don't need the power of a 300whizbangmagnum. I use the 30-30 because I like a traditional lever action, its short and easy to carry, and I don't have a scope on it because the shots I plan to make when I'm using it are normally very short. I use a .223 for coyotes and varmints, mainly under 300 yards. Since it is also a current military cartridge, ammo is incredibly cheap and easy to come by. For longer range deer or coyotes, I've got the 25-06. I don't plan to shoot anything bigger, so why use anything bigger. Sure, I could use a 300WSM, but I probably couldn't shoot it as good. As far as the 25WSSM, larger bullets take away some powder capacity. Also, the factory loads for the WSSM's are loaded pretty hot while most factory 25-06 ammo isn't. So ballistics look the same, but a reloader can do more with the 25-06. Also, case life for the WSSM's is much shorter.

bawanajim 02-02-2005 03:59 PM

RE: Inferior Rounds
 
Hey Justin with your 100 years of wisdom you should know A rifle has not been built that will out perform the great 264 winchester magnum.[:'(]But your shot gun knowledge would fit in the case of a 22 short. Other than that you seem pretty open minded.Nosler prints a couple of books you might look into.

BuckMaster7 02-02-2005 04:09 PM

RE: Inferior Rounds
 

ORIGINAL: bawanajim

Hey Justin with your 100 years of wisdom you should know A rifle has not been built that will out perform the great 264 winchester magnum.[:'(]But your shot gun knowledge would fit in the case of a 22 short. Other than that you seem pretty open minded.Nosler prints a couple of books you might look into.
Yeah there is, the 257 weatherby magnum beats it. They could easily beat the 264 winchester magnum by making one in 264 WSM. Why are you even comparing a 264 to 257 caliber?

BuckMaster7 02-02-2005 04:14 PM

RE: Inferior Rounds
 

ORIGINAL: North Texan BuckMaster, your reasons aren't bad but your logic is flawed. Your making the assumption ballistics is the only consideration when choosing a caliber.
No, that's not all, the shorter action makes them a nice light rifle.

bawanajim 02-02-2005 04:17 PM

RE: Inferior Rounds
 
An hour ago the 7 mag was your sweetheart. You don't have much loyalty.Or are you reaching for something here.

BuckMaster7 02-02-2005 04:28 PM

RE: Inferior Rounds
 

ORIGINAL: bawanajim

An hour ago the 7 mag was your sweetheart. You don't have much loyalty.Or are you reaching for something here.
The 257 and the 7mm are two very different rounds. The 7 WSM can take all the game in America and is the flattest of all calibers. Take a look at the ballistic coefficient on those rounds. There's one that had 620 which is pretty high.

bawanajim 02-02-2005 04:34 PM

RE: Inferior Rounds
 
Flattest of all calibers ???????? Ever hear of The 30-378 Weatherby MAG From way back in 1958. Just how far do you want to Shoot????????

BuckMaster7 02-02-2005 04:53 PM

RE: Inferior Rounds
 

ORIGINAL: bawanajim

Flattest of all calibers ???????? Ever hear of The 30-378 Weatherby MAG From way back in 1958. Just how far do you want to Shoot????????
It's overkill on deer. It has a long action and is a belted magnum. The recoil would be on the extreme side. Apparently that's why it's unpopular.

BuckMaster7 02-02-2005 05:10 PM

RE: Inferior Rounds
 
Hey Jim, with your 100 years of wisdom you should know that these WSM's and WSSM's kick @$$. :D

dvdegeorge 02-02-2005 05:23 PM

RE: Inferior Rounds
 
which one is inferior?


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