RE: muzzlebrake?
 

Just had a thought, a 30-30 barely kicks and they are fairly cheap, maybe an option.

RE: muzzlebrake?
 

how about a winchester model 94 timber in (450 marlin ) oops that one is for me:D:):D

RE: muzzlebrake?
 

USMC, the 30-30 is light on recoil, but if a 410 shotgun scares him, a 30-30 is out of the question too.

RE: muzzlebrake?
 

Cutting the stock on his .410 is an option but the gun will forever be "youth" sized unless you can replace the stock. If you have a fairly low cost single shot like the NEF I would cut it for him. It is fairly easy to get parts for them so later you could replace the cut stock with a full size. I would also at least talk to someone that has done this before, you do not want to change the angle of the butt. There is a book that you can pickup at the local WalMart for about $14 that will show you how to cut the stock properly, click the link below to view it. Good luck.
[link]http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=235420&cat=22191&type=3&dep t=3920&path=0%3A3920%3A18888%3A22191[/link]

RE: muzzlebrake?
 

this is going to sound crazy but, a few years ago i wanted my nephew to go on a youth deer hunt, he also did not care for the single shot 410 too much, one day the neigbors grandkids are over and the wanted to shoot a little, not wanting to miss the chance to get some kid hooked on something i consider very positive and better than any stupid hand-held game, i broke out a 10/22 a h&r single shot 410, and when one of the boys mentioned he'd like to shoot a deer rifle, i brought out the wifes rem model 7 in 260 rem, all 4 of my neighbors grandkids shot all 3 guns and it basically shamed my nephew into shooting it before you knew it they all decided it wasn't that bad, kinda cool for them, they would shoot it and go "oh man" rub the shoulder for a second and be ready to shoot again faster than i could load, these boys ranged in age from 8-14 and my nephew was 10. to me its like paintball, yea it hurts a little [:@] but the adrenaline is so high you hardly notice it. best of luck and like other mentioned don't make him shoot or he could turn away or develop some poor shooting habits

RE: muzzlebrake?
 

Another thought for you. Remington chambers their model 7400 semi auto in 243. It should have hardly any recoil what so ever. Just a thought.

http://www.remington.com/firearms/ce...re/7400syn.htm

RE: muzzlebrake?
 

No offense, but IMO, it doesn't sound like he's ready to take shots at deer if a 410 bothers him. Nothing wrong with just taking him with ya. He doesn't have to pull the trigger. I know I didn't until I was 13. I mean I wanted to, but I wasn't ready.

RE: muzzlebrake?
 

thanks to everyone for your input and help.:D i have 2 410's and one of them is a real cheap single shot. my dad is a machinest and is going to cut the stock and insall a packmier but pad. for my son. so that is taken care of.:) i was planing on taking him hunting with me and letting him carry his pellet rifle. so he will get used to hiking in the woods with a rifle. and lern from the experiance of being there with me. is this a good idea to let him take a pellet rifle?

RE: muzzlebrake?
 

My buddy's son is 8 years old and shoots a NEF in 243..he had to scale the loads down considerably as well as install a decelerator pad on the gun. It had the synthetic stock and we just cut to correct LOP and glassed in a piece of wood that fit the inside of the stock so we could screw the decelerator to it. Not pretty but it works

RE: muzzlebrake?
 

Night Hawk, I agree with a lighter caliber rifle compared to a muzzle brake. You should wear ear protection even while hunting with the brake. It's deafining and can cause hearing damage with only one shot in a confined area.;)