mosin nagant
05-31-2004, 08:05 AM
#2
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Finland
Posts: 140
RE: mosin nagant
YES
Extremely rugged rifle, virtually impossible to do anything to it that will kill it.
What type do you have? A russian (Tula arsenal) long infantry rifle? A Finnish rebuild (heavy barrel short rifle, marked either Suomi or Lathi - most accurate!) or a Remington WWI production?
Russian carbines are ok, but not realy accurate and they kick like nothing else when fired with full mil-spec load.
.30 Russian (Rifle, not the 7.62 x 39) is a very powerful cartridge, comparable to the .30-06 springfield and 7.92 x 57 IS.
Complex bolt though, you might want a manual or scematic drawing before taking it apart. If the sights are in paces (Russian paces) mail me, I have a conversiontable to metric and imperial somewhere.
Kind regards,
Vesi
Extremely rugged rifle, virtually impossible to do anything to it that will kill it.
What type do you have? A russian (Tula arsenal) long infantry rifle? A Finnish rebuild (heavy barrel short rifle, marked either Suomi or Lathi - most accurate!) or a Remington WWI production?
Russian carbines are ok, but not realy accurate and they kick like nothing else when fired with full mil-spec load.
.30 Russian (Rifle, not the 7.62 x 39) is a very powerful cartridge, comparable to the .30-06 springfield and 7.92 x 57 IS.
Complex bolt though, you might want a manual or scematic drawing before taking it apart. If the sights are in paces (Russian paces) mail me, I have a conversiontable to metric and imperial somewhere.
Kind regards,
Vesi
05-31-2004, 11:05 AM
#4
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: S Texas
Posts: 1,037
RE: mosin nagant
Easiest to carry are the Russian carbines, either a M1938 or a M1944. The Finnish M-39 is the most accurate MN varient, IME, but is a full size battle rifle. If you are going to buy a MN to cut up, buy one of the carbines, they are very cheap and very plentiful. Please DO NOT CUT UP or otherwise BUBBAIZE a pristene M39. Hunt with them as issued for a challenge.
05-31-2004, 12:11 PM
#5
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: North Chili NY USA
Posts: 96
RE: mosin nagant
They were designed to kill people and people are roughly the size of a deer. Of course it would kill deer. It's about a .308. I've hunted with my WWII manufacture M44 (though I never got to shoot at anything. A few warnings...
1) The safety is a bear (no pun intended). I found the safety so difficult to operate that I worried about spooking the deer when I pulled it off. I wonder how many charging Russians were shot in the back because thier comrade was just too weak/tired/indifferent to turn on the safety.
2) Alot of surplus ammo is available that is not only corrosive, it is silver tip PAINTED, not a hunting round. Make sure you get expandable rounds.
3) The point of balance for shooting with the M44 assumes the bayonet is locked open. This is really handy if the deer is real close 'cause you can just lunge forward and stab them. The big hazzard aside from tripping and impaling yourself or another, is the ribbing you'll take from other hunters in camp.
Paul
1) The safety is a bear (no pun intended). I found the safety so difficult to operate that I worried about spooking the deer when I pulled it off. I wonder how many charging Russians were shot in the back because thier comrade was just too weak/tired/indifferent to turn on the safety.
2) Alot of surplus ammo is available that is not only corrosive, it is silver tip PAINTED, not a hunting round. Make sure you get expandable rounds.
3) The point of balance for shooting with the M44 assumes the bayonet is locked open. This is really handy if the deer is real close 'cause you can just lunge forward and stab them. The big hazzard aside from tripping and impaling yourself or another, is the ribbing you'll take from other hunters in camp.
Paul
05-31-2004, 05:54 PM
#7
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Finland
Posts: 140
RE: mosin nagant
What you get is up to you realy, but I would say it could be an argument in regard to location/vegetation where you want to hunt. If accuracy is your goal, (AND THIS IS NOT DUE TO ANY NATIONAL PREFERENCES!!!!) go for the Finnish rifle, I don't know whether or not short rifles where exported to the US, perhaps even some carbines, but a infantry rifle will serve you just fine. I personally don't care about the Russian rifles and carbines, I wouldn't spend money on one. The Remingtons are real sweet rifles though, A note on cutting up a Finnish MN...most people I know don't do it, and "sporterizing" doesn't bring better accuracy or handiness, just different looks. Remember, this rifle was used under the most difficult conditions, in one of the fiercest stands in history (the 1939-1940 winter war) a war the Finns nor the Russians will ever forget. It has some history to it, the rifle will serve you well as it is.
Best regards,
Vesi
Best regards,
Vesi
06-01-2004, 02:50 AM
#9
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Body in SE WI, mind in U.P.
Posts: 4,781
RE: mosin nagant
The Finns are the only people who built them right. Most Russian and combloc MNs have a very wide array of bore measurements and can't be counted on to be very accurate- especially in the carbines. The bores should have a measurement of nominally .310- one of the M44s I have slugws out at .314" and is a grossly inaccurate rifle.
06-01-2004, 09:12 PM
#10
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Northern MN
Posts: 270
RE: mosin nagant
I have on that I put a aftermarket stock on. It is easily MOD (Minute of Deer). Accurate to one hole at 100 yards, NOT. Remember, the sites are graded up to 1000 yards for shooting PEOPLE. With practice, you should be good out to 150 yards. Like said above some are not accurate at all and you may get a lemon. But they are fun to shoot and I plan to use it for drives in the heavy brush but not as a bean field rifle.