new manufactured 35 Whelen
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new manufactured 35 Whelen
Are any of the big well known rifle manufacturers chambering any of their lines in this caliber? I have a couple options for converting some rifles, but was trying to price out the diffference bettween getting a new, or used 35 Whelen...as opposed to converting/building one.
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RE: new manufactured 35 Whelen
Yes Remington has a limited run of model 7600's in the 35 whelen, my son has one and it shoots real well. They are also coming out with a limited run of model700 cdl in 35 whelen sometime later this year. I believe the wholesaler for these guns is Grices of western Pa. The name might be spelled wrong, but if you need to know the email address, let me know.
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RE: new manufactured 35 Whelen
Email address for Grice is www.gricewholesale.com, the 7600's cost about $500.
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RE: new manufactured 35 Whelen
Seriously now, if I wanted a .35 Whelen (even though I'd far prefer a .338-06) I'd be going to gun shows and used gun shops looking for a donor rifle.....a Remington ADL (or classic) .30-06, a Winchester M-70 30-06....etc something I was comfortable with and build one.
Even a cheap 8MM mauser 98 will do the job nicely but I'd prefer a modern action.
A FTC barrel from douglas is about $260 and installation and bluing is about $100....the FTC is already threaded and chambered.....
I'd far rather take this route than buy a new rifle.
Even a cheap 8MM mauser 98 will do the job nicely but I'd prefer a modern action.
A FTC barrel from douglas is about $260 and installation and bluing is about $100....the FTC is already threaded and chambered.....
I'd far rather take this route than buy a new rifle.
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RE: new manufactured 35 Whelen
Thanks for the info
I currently own a Savage 110 in 30/06, so the option to do the swap barrel thing with the Midway Adams & Bennet barrels is open to me. Midway currently has the 35 Whelen in the kit combo (barrel, wrench and go-no-go gauges for $175). I haven't seen the 338/06 in this combo, but they do have the barrels.
I'm considering this. I also have a 8mm/06 so don't really need the 30/06 also...they are pretty darn close to each other in performance, except for wide range of bullets available...but pretty close.
Building one would be fun....but I'll probably have to go the other route (convert the Savage) to save $$$$$.
I'm just trying to get a handle on the costs of each project before I get too excited about anything.
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I currently own a Savage 110 in 30/06, so the option to do the swap barrel thing with the Midway Adams & Bennet barrels is open to me. Midway currently has the 35 Whelen in the kit combo (barrel, wrench and go-no-go gauges for $175). I haven't seen the 338/06 in this combo, but they do have the barrels.
I'm considering this. I also have a 8mm/06 so don't really need the 30/06 also...they are pretty darn close to each other in performance, except for wide range of bullets available...but pretty close.
Building one would be fun....but I'll probably have to go the other route (convert the Savage) to save $$$$$.
I'm just trying to get a handle on the costs of each project before I get too excited about anything.
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RE: new manufactured 35 Whelen
Vapodog....or anyone for that matter...
Why would you prefer the .338-06 to the 35 Whelen? When I checked one book with ballistics it seemed they were pretty close with the nod going slightly to the 35 whelen on the upper end of bullet weights to be handled....and the 35 Whelen listed many more bullet weights on the lighter side..........I'm fairly new to learning about both these calibers so your input is greatly appreciated.......
Why would you prefer the .338-06 to the 35 Whelen? When I checked one book with ballistics it seemed they were pretty close with the nod going slightly to the 35 whelen on the upper end of bullet weights to be handled....and the 35 Whelen listed many more bullet weights on the lighter side..........I'm fairly new to learning about both these calibers so your input is greatly appreciated.......
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RE: new manufactured 35 Whelen
Thanks otis
So if the 338 has a slight advantage down range, it wouldn't necessarily be an advantage creating a big void between the 2 rounds as far as killing power would it? At least not the way I'm reading the charts.
Another question....which box of ammo will set me back the most? 35 Whelen or 338-06?
So if the 338 has a slight advantage down range, it wouldn't necessarily be an advantage creating a big void between the 2 rounds as far as killing power would it? At least not the way I'm reading the charts.
Another question....which box of ammo will set me back the most? 35 Whelen or 338-06?
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RE: new manufactured 35 Whelen
The following is quoted from the cartridge information on www.reloadersnest.com
" Back in 1945-1946 Charles O'Neil, Elmer Keith and Don Hopkins developed a cartridge they named the 333 OKH which was based on the 30-06 case necked up to 333 caliber. It was a very good big game cartridge, but today it suffers from the lack of good, readily available .333" diameter bullets. When the .338 Winchester Magnum was introduced in 1958, it was followed immediately by a variety of commercial .338" diameter bullets. Shortly there after, several individuals at different places conceived the idea of either altering their 333 OKH's or necking up 30-06 to accept .338" diameter bullets. Since .338" diameter bullets are available in weights varying from 200 grains up to 300 grains, this makes the 338-06 a versatile and effective big game cartridge. The performance of the 338-06 is very similar to that of the 35 Whelen except that the .338" diameter bullets offer a somewhat better sectional density,- .313 for the Sierra 250 grain .338" Spitzer Boattail, as opposed to .279 for the Speer .358" spitzer bullet of the same weight. n summary, the 338-06 is an excellent big game cartridge, but not as flexible or versatile as the 35 Whelen in the matter of available bullet types. "
The only listing I found at Midway and Cabelas websites for 338-06 ammo was Weatherby A-Square at $46 a box, for 35 Whelen Remington $ 22 and Federal $29.
" Back in 1945-1946 Charles O'Neil, Elmer Keith and Don Hopkins developed a cartridge they named the 333 OKH which was based on the 30-06 case necked up to 333 caliber. It was a very good big game cartridge, but today it suffers from the lack of good, readily available .333" diameter bullets. When the .338 Winchester Magnum was introduced in 1958, it was followed immediately by a variety of commercial .338" diameter bullets. Shortly there after, several individuals at different places conceived the idea of either altering their 333 OKH's or necking up 30-06 to accept .338" diameter bullets. Since .338" diameter bullets are available in weights varying from 200 grains up to 300 grains, this makes the 338-06 a versatile and effective big game cartridge. The performance of the 338-06 is very similar to that of the 35 Whelen except that the .338" diameter bullets offer a somewhat better sectional density,- .313 for the Sierra 250 grain .338" Spitzer Boattail, as opposed to .279 for the Speer .358" spitzer bullet of the same weight. n summary, the 338-06 is an excellent big game cartridge, but not as flexible or versatile as the 35 Whelen in the matter of available bullet types. "
The only listing I found at Midway and Cabelas websites for 338-06 ammo was Weatherby A-Square at $46 a box, for 35 Whelen Remington $ 22 and Federal $29.