7mm or 300?
11-22-2003, 09:08 AM
#1
Thread Starter
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7mm or 300?
I am looking for a new gun. I can not decide on what caliber I want. I shoot a .270 right now, and want something with a little more " Umph" I was looking at the 7mm and .300s. What are your opinions about these two calibers.
Also can someone please tell me the advantages of the new WSM' s? Thank You
Jason
Also can someone please tell me the advantages of the new WSM' s? Thank You
Jason
11-22-2003, 09:56 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: 7mm or 300?
I would pick the standard 300-win mag, I have shot one for about 20-years.
I have though long & hard about a 270, 7mm or 300-WSM. I have put the ballistic tables side by side & the rifles side by side. I like the idea of the short mag but I see no advantage to owning one.
Look at the ballictic tables, shoulder some rifles & then look at ammunition prices.[
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Comparing the ammunition prices & the ballistic tables head to head did it for me.[]
Good luck
I have though long & hard about a 270, 7mm or 300-WSM. I have put the ballistic tables side by side & the rifles side by side. I like the idea of the short mag but I see no advantage to owning one.
Look at the ballictic tables, shoulder some rifles & then look at ammunition prices.[
]Comparing the ammunition prices & the ballistic tables head to head did it for me.[
]Good luck
11-22-2003, 10:08 AM
#3
Join Date: Feb 2003
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RE: 7mm or 300?
Wolf Killer' s right. There is no difference in the WSMs and their standard length parents ballistically. You' re going to pay more for factory loaded ammo from the WSM line than the standard length mags and if you reload there isn' t as much data available for the WSMs. The only reason the WSM exists is because somebody wanted to fit a magnum cartridge into a short action rifle. In other words they came up with it just because they can. It has also made hte gun and ammo makers a lot of money. It' s really just a toss of the coin to decide unless ammo cost is an issue. Personally I just like long cartridges. There' s just something very sexy about them.
11-22-2003, 11:23 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: 7mm or 300?
For deer the .270 and 7MM mags are roughly equivalent. If you' re looking to bigger game and (now here' s the rub) you are going to trade the .270 for the new gun, I' d buy the 7MM for it' s ability to shoot the heavier bullets. If you' re not going to trade the .270, then I' d think the .300 mags would be better choices.
In other words it depends on whether you want to trade the .270.
In other words it depends on whether you want to trade the .270.
11-22-2003, 11:26 AM
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Boone & Crockett
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RE: 7mm or 300?
In all honesty you might as well flip a coin on the 7mm or 300.
The WSM, at least in my opinion, have some advantages over the standard magnums.
#1 they don' t have that belt so they headspace on the shoulder which leads to better accuracy.
#2 they fit in a shorter action so the bolt is stiffer and stronger than the longer bolts of the standard actions.
#3 If you are watching the weight of your rifle the lighter weight of the short action is an advantage. Worry about the ounces and the pounds take care of themselves.
The standard magnums will have an advantage in speed if you handload and / or shoot the heavier bullets like the 200 and 220 grainers.
The WSM, at least in my opinion, have some advantages over the standard magnums.
#1 they don' t have that belt so they headspace on the shoulder which leads to better accuracy.
#2 they fit in a shorter action so the bolt is stiffer and stronger than the longer bolts of the standard actions.
#3 If you are watching the weight of your rifle the lighter weight of the short action is an advantage. Worry about the ounces and the pounds take care of themselves.
The standard magnums will have an advantage in speed if you handload and / or shoot the heavier bullets like the 200 and 220 grainers.
11-22-2003, 12:05 PM
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RE: 7mm or 300?
What a can of worms?
Personally I don' t believe that there is much difference between the .270 and a 7mm. (.277 as opposed to .284). Though I know there are many that would disagree. If I already owned a .270, (and intended to keep it), and I was going to add another rifle in either 7mm or .300....I' d go with the .300 Magnum. And I would probably pick a standard .300. Either the .300 Winchester or the .300 Weatherby Magnum. Both of them are capable of doing what .300 Magnums do best. Launch a .30 caliber bullet that is both heavier and thus more suitable for game more suited to the .300 magnums, (as opposed to the .270). Your current .270 is already well suited to shooting a longer ranges. So I would assume you want a rifle that is much more capable with heavier game. Either the .300 Winchester Magnum or the .300 Weatherby Magnum with a good 200 grain, (or heavier), premium bullet has to be seen to be appreciated on heavier game. When loaded with a Nosler Partition in 200 grains or more...the .300' s come close to mimicing the larger mediums, (ie. .338' s Magnums).
Personally I don' t believe that there is much difference between the .270 and a 7mm. (.277 as opposed to .284). Though I know there are many that would disagree. If I already owned a .270, (and intended to keep it), and I was going to add another rifle in either 7mm or .300....I' d go with the .300 Magnum. And I would probably pick a standard .300. Either the .300 Winchester or the .300 Weatherby Magnum. Both of them are capable of doing what .300 Magnums do best. Launch a .30 caliber bullet that is both heavier and thus more suitable for game more suited to the .300 magnums, (as opposed to the .270). Your current .270 is already well suited to shooting a longer ranges. So I would assume you want a rifle that is much more capable with heavier game. Either the .300 Winchester Magnum or the .300 Weatherby Magnum with a good 200 grain, (or heavier), premium bullet has to be seen to be appreciated on heavier game. When loaded with a Nosler Partition in 200 grains or more...the .300' s come close to mimicing the larger mediums, (ie. .338' s Magnums).
11-26-2003, 04:50 AM
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Giant Nontypical
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RE: 7mm or 300?
If you have a .270 Win. now, there' d be no real advantage at all for you to get a short magnum. The 7mm Rem. Mag. likewise is not enough of a step up, so get at least a .300 Win. Mag., or better yet, a .338 Win. or .340 Weatherby.
