Leather Cheek Riser/Pad for Weatherby Vanguard Series II
11-17-2013 | 04:05 PM
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Spike
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Leather Cheek Riser/Pad for Weatherby Vanguard Series II
Hey guys,
I have a, what I consider to be, very nice Weatherby Vanguard Series II Sporter (Blued + Walnut Stock). It's got a leather sling and a Nikon ProStaff 3-9x40 on Leupold Low Rifleman Scope Rings. It's been a pretty good rifle so far with 1 exception. I get a really crummy cheek weld even though it has a "Monte Carlo" stock. It lines up perfectly if the rifle had irons... but it doesn't. If I want to use the Scope (which of course I do) I have to sacrifice my cheek weld.
Obviously, the solutions are: 1.) a new stock, 2.) a check pad/riser. I'm leaning toward option 2 for price. I'd like a Cheek Pad made of Leather to go with the stylings of the rifle but they seem to be few and far between. The only ones I could find with an internet search were the Cabela's Triple K (with mediocre reviews) and this company called Cheek-N-Stock.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Tripl...Pad/706669.uts
http://www.cheeknstock.com/main.html
Does anyone have experience with the Cheek-N-Weld or recommendations for a nice Leather Riser?
Thanks,
Scout
I have a, what I consider to be, very nice Weatherby Vanguard Series II Sporter (Blued + Walnut Stock). It's got a leather sling and a Nikon ProStaff 3-9x40 on Leupold Low Rifleman Scope Rings. It's been a pretty good rifle so far with 1 exception. I get a really crummy cheek weld even though it has a "Monte Carlo" stock. It lines up perfectly if the rifle had irons... but it doesn't. If I want to use the Scope (which of course I do) I have to sacrifice my cheek weld.
Obviously, the solutions are: 1.) a new stock, 2.) a check pad/riser. I'm leaning toward option 2 for price. I'd like a Cheek Pad made of Leather to go with the stylings of the rifle but they seem to be few and far between. The only ones I could find with an internet search were the Cabela's Triple K (with mediocre reviews) and this company called Cheek-N-Stock.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Tripl...Pad/706669.uts
http://www.cheeknstock.com/main.html
Does anyone have experience with the Cheek-N-Weld or recommendations for a nice Leather Riser?
Thanks,
Scout
11-18-2013 | 12:08 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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may not be leather, but I know many people using these and like them
http://www.beartooth-products.com/sh...sing-kits.html
http://www.beartooth-products.com/sh...sing-kits.html
11-18-2013 | 04:25 AM
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Spike
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may not be leather, but I know many people using these and like them
http://www.beartooth-products.com/sh...sing-kits.html
http://www.beartooth-products.com/sh...sing-kits.html
The brown doesn't look to bad, the price is right, and it looks pretty adjustable. It also looks like the pads can sit anywhere along the comb you want (im my case to the rear). I'm concerned that some solutions might interfere with the action as it comes back about 1/2" over the existing Monte Carlo Comb.
11-18-2013 | 07:01 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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From: Kansas
It doesn't appear that the Triple K's will work for you, as your bolt clearance isn't tall enough for them.
Where are you located? Since you have room to hunt, I'm prone to believe that there will be a local saddleshop or leathersmith near you. They can match the material, color, even stitching style of your sling. I've made a couple dozen of these over the years, simple enough to do. Be sure to have them line the inside with felt or suede so that the leather doesn't rub on your stock's finish, then remove it from time to time to make sure dust or dirt hasn't gotten in, as it can rub the finish between the two.
Or if you can't find a local leathermaker, contact someone like el paso saddlery and send them sunlight photos of your sling, and they can match it and make you one.
On the beartooth kit, like most leather wrapped kits, you can trust that it won't interfere with your bolt throw. The neoprene is thin enough to fit beneath the bolt, and you position the shims yourself, so you can place them far enough back that they don't interfere with the bolt. You may have to trim the shims so they don't stick too far out the rear.
For what it is worth, I ONLY make these as lace on (with protected grommets, or leather laces). Ones like that Cheek-n-stock only work if the bottom of your stock is straight. Yours is not. Those straight fold Velcro attachment types need a skinny opening at the front, to "choke" the stock and prevent them from sliding backwards. They CAN slide forwards still, but you can add a thong around the end of the butt to stop that. With a pistol gripped monte carlo, you really need a fitted version that contours with the comb and bottom of your stock.
Where are you located? Since you have room to hunt, I'm prone to believe that there will be a local saddleshop or leathersmith near you. They can match the material, color, even stitching style of your sling. I've made a couple dozen of these over the years, simple enough to do. Be sure to have them line the inside with felt or suede so that the leather doesn't rub on your stock's finish, then remove it from time to time to make sure dust or dirt hasn't gotten in, as it can rub the finish between the two.
Or if you can't find a local leathermaker, contact someone like el paso saddlery and send them sunlight photos of your sling, and they can match it and make you one.
On the beartooth kit, like most leather wrapped kits, you can trust that it won't interfere with your bolt throw. The neoprene is thin enough to fit beneath the bolt, and you position the shims yourself, so you can place them far enough back that they don't interfere with the bolt. You may have to trim the shims so they don't stick too far out the rear.
For what it is worth, I ONLY make these as lace on (with protected grommets, or leather laces). Ones like that Cheek-n-stock only work if the bottom of your stock is straight. Yours is not. Those straight fold Velcro attachment types need a skinny opening at the front, to "choke" the stock and prevent them from sliding backwards. They CAN slide forwards still, but you can add a thong around the end of the butt to stop that. With a pistol gripped monte carlo, you really need a fitted version that contours with the comb and bottom of your stock.
11-18-2013 | 11:03 AM
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Spike
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It doesn't appear that the Triple K's will work for you, as your bolt clearance isn't tall enough for them.
Where are you located? Since you have room to hunt, I'm prone to believe that there will be a local saddleshop or leathersmith near you. They can match the material, color, even stitching style of your sling. I've made a couple dozen of these over the years, simple enough to do. Be sure to have them line the inside with felt or suede so that the leather doesn't rub on your stock's finish, then remove it from time to time to make sure dust or dirt hasn't gotten in, as it can rub the finish between the two.
Or if you can't find a local leathermaker, contact someone like el paso saddlery and send them sunlight photos of your sling, and they can match it and make you one.
On the beartooth kit, like most leather wrapped kits, you can trust that it won't interfere with your bolt throw. The neoprene is thin enough to fit beneath the bolt, and you position the shims yourself, so you can place them far enough back that they don't interfere with the bolt. You may have to trim the shims so they don't stick too far out the rear.
For what it is worth, I ONLY make these as lace on (with protected grommets, or leather laces). Ones like that Cheek-n-stock only work if the bottom of your stock is straight. Yours is not. Those straight fold Velcro attachment types need a skinny opening at the front, to "choke" the stock and prevent them from sliding backwards. They CAN slide forwards still, but you can add a thong around the end of the butt to stop that. With a pistol gripped monte carlo, you really need a fitted version that contours with the comb and bottom of your stock.
Where are you located? Since you have room to hunt, I'm prone to believe that there will be a local saddleshop or leathersmith near you. They can match the material, color, even stitching style of your sling. I've made a couple dozen of these over the years, simple enough to do. Be sure to have them line the inside with felt or suede so that the leather doesn't rub on your stock's finish, then remove it from time to time to make sure dust or dirt hasn't gotten in, as it can rub the finish between the two.
Or if you can't find a local leathermaker, contact someone like el paso saddlery and send them sunlight photos of your sling, and they can match it and make you one.
On the beartooth kit, like most leather wrapped kits, you can trust that it won't interfere with your bolt throw. The neoprene is thin enough to fit beneath the bolt, and you position the shims yourself, so you can place them far enough back that they don't interfere with the bolt. You may have to trim the shims so they don't stick too far out the rear.
For what it is worth, I ONLY make these as lace on (with protected grommets, or leather laces). Ones like that Cheek-n-stock only work if the bottom of your stock is straight. Yours is not. Those straight fold Velcro attachment types need a skinny opening at the front, to "choke" the stock and prevent them from sliding backwards. They CAN slide forwards still, but you can add a thong around the end of the butt to stop that. With a pistol gripped monte carlo, you really need a fitted version that contours with the comb and bottom of your stock.
Everything you say makes sense regarding the shortcomings of the Cheek N Weld & Triple K. I live in Georgia and while I don't know, specifically, of any local leatherworkers I'm going to look into that.
I think I may buy the Beartooth kit as a stopgap and investigate a custom leather solution.
