He wasn't the worst President in history, not by far, but his economic policies did add to our current problems, or rather helped create them.

The best term for them is a loose band-aid on a gaping wound.

Do I really have to go to the trouble to cut, list and paste Reagan's accomplishments and compare them to the foibles of any demlib president? The comparisons are obvious to most.

As it relates to the current election-what has Obama done to make him worthy of re-election? That list would be much easier to throw together and post. As a matter of fact:

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[QUOTE=fritz1;3966231]The only way to get a handle on this economy is to get fuel prices down. Guess who runs big oil? The Republicans! /QUOTE]

Which Republicans?

People who talk about "big oil" and "tax breaks for the rich" are merely spouting demlib discussion points which have little or no basis in fact.

That's why propaganda works so well on the weak-minded.

As free-thinking Conservatives, we've learned long ago that it's nearly impossible to convince a demlib of the errors in his thinking; he must learn to research the facts in order to come to the correct conclusions himself.

Otherwise, he just pukes what his party tells him to puke.

Your right, he wasnt the worst. The worst in my opinion was Lil Bush, followed by Papa Bush then I would rank Reagan as a close third. The economy might have been great for the wealthy in the Reagan years but for the working class construction worker it was far from great.

Like I said before, come Nov. 6th., well see, wont we. There will be alot of Repulicans crying on here. I cant wait!!!

Why on earth would you look forward to crying a lot?

A SAMPLE OF CAMPAIGN PROMISES KEPT BY PRESIDENT OBAMA:
No. 4: Extend child tax credits and marriage-penalty fixes
No. 16: Increase minority access to capital
No. 33: Establish a credit card bill of rights
No. 36: Expand loan programs for small businesses
No. 37: Extend the Bush tax cuts for lower incomes
No. 38: Extend the Bush tax cuts for those making less than $250,000 (couples) or $200,000 (single)
No. 48: Close the “doughnut hole” in Medicare prescription drug plan
No. 51: Require insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions
No. 53: Give tax credits to those who need help to pay health premiums
No. 55: Require large employers to contribute to a national health plan
No. 56: Require children to have health insurance coverage
No. 57: Expand eligibility for Medicaid
No. 58: Expand eligibility for State Children’s Health Insurance Fund (SCHIP)
No. 63: Require health plans to disclose how much of the premium goes to patient care
No. 65: Establish an independent health institute to provide accurate and objective information
No. 69: In non-competitive markets, force insurers to pay out a reasonable share of their premiums for patient care
No. 70: Eliminate the higher subsidies to Medicare Advantage plans
No. 93: Reinstate executive order to hire an additional 100,000 federal employees with disabilities within five years.
No. 105: Increase the Veterans Administration budget to recruit and retain more mental health
No. 109: Fully fund the Veterans Administration
No. 113: Expand the Veterans Administration’s number of “centers of excellence” in specialty care
No. 121: Fully fund the Violence Against Women Act
No. 125: Direct military leaders to end war in Iraq
No. 126: Begin removing combat brigades from Iraq
No. 132: No permanent bases in Iraq
No. 161: End the abuse of supplemental budgets for war
No. 167: Make U.S. military aid to Pakistan conditional on anti-terror efforts
No. 172: Open “America Houses” in Islamic cities around the globe
No. 182: Allocate Homeland Security funding according to risk
No. 195: Seek verifiable reductions in nuclear stockpiles
No. 196: Extend monitoring and verification provisions of the START I Treaty
No. 197: Stand down nuclear forces to be reduced under the Moscow Treaty
No. 215: Create a rapid response fund for emerging democracies
No. 222: Grant Americans unrestricted rights to visit family and send money to Cuba
No. 225: Establish an Energy Partnership for the Americas
No. 229: Expand the Nurse-Family Partnership to all low-income, first-time mothers
No. 239: Release presidential records
No. 241: Require new hires to sign a form affirming their hiring was not due to political affiliation or contributions.
No. 244: Provide affordable, high-quality child care
No. 247: Recruit math and science degree graduates to the teaching profession
No. 259: Reduce subsidies to private student lenders and protect student borrowers
No. 269: Increase funding for national parks and forests
No. 275: Expand Pell grants for low-income students
No. 290: Push for enactment of Matthew Shepard Act, which expands hate crime law to include sexual orientation and other factors
No. 293: Repeal “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy
No. 315: Establish ‘Promise Neighborhoods’ for areas of concentrated poverty
No. 359: Rebuild schools in New Orleans
No. 371: Fund a major expansion of AmeriCorps
No. 411: Work to overturn Ledbetter vs. Goodyear
No. 422: Create new financial regulations
No. 427: Ban lobbyist gifts to executive employees
No. 433: Sign a “universal” health care bill
No. 435: Create new criminal penalties for mortgage fraud
No. 449: Raise fuel economy standards
No. 458: Invest in all types of alternative energy
No. 483: Invest in public transportation
No. 495: Double federal spending for research on clean fuels
No. 500: Increase funding for the Environmental Protection Agency
No. 507: Extend unemployment insurance benefits and temporarily suspend taxes on these benefits
No. 513: Reverse restrictions on stem cell research

Again, please keep in mind that this is only a fraction of the promises he has kept. I don’t think there is another president in recent history who could present such a list.

[QUOTE]Your right, he wasnt the worst. The worst in my opinion was Lil Bush, followed by Papa Bush then I would rank Reagan as a close third. The economy might have been great for the wealthy in the Reagan years but for the working class construction worker it was far from great.QUOTE]

here we go again. Blame it on bush. Give it a rest man. Atleast he did SOMETHING! yes it might not have been popular but atleast he picked a plan of action and went with it. This yahoo that is in there now can even come close to that. There is no worse president than the moron thats in there now... and yes we know you're not voting for him... then quick pointing the finger everywhere but at the current problem.

lol You're right for once; no president in recent history could present such a cockamamie, socialist-leaning list.

Did you bother to read each and every item on that list and analyze it? I don't have the time nor do I want to waste this site's bandwidth in explaining the duplicity and chicanery involved in nearly every one of those "promises".

Somebody spends way too much time on HuffPo.

Here are some Romney facts for you.

http://www.factcheck.org/more_mitt_missteps.html

On the other hand, here is some interesting FACTS about our current economy.
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2011/01/...y-under-obama/

It is going to take more than 4 years to bail this country out of the turmoil that the Bush administration left it in. Obama has done a good job for what he was left with, this country was on its way to another major depression when Obama stepped into office. It took Bush 8 years to ruin our economy, no one can fix that kind of mess in just 4 years!

lol You leftists would be blaming Bush for another four years if Obama got re-elected. This economy is horrible because of Obama. He said himself that if he couldn't turn it around in 3 years, he'd be a one-termer.

How can you libs fail to recognize utter, gross incompetence in your own guy? Is it ignorance-or stupidity?

Let me assure you of something-short of subterfuge, martial law being declared or some other demlib scumbaggery, Obama doesn't have a snowball's chance in winning the election.

You Bushhaters need to stock up on the Xanax.

Thats funny! LOL!!! If the bad economy was Obamas fault, answer me one question. Why would he say he could turn it arround in arround 3 years? Obviously it was f*cked up when he got in office or it would not have needed turned arround. Right?

I left Florida durring the election, Bush was still in office, almost every house on my street in Orlando was being foreclosed and there was absolutly no work arround Florida. This was before Obama got in office. My how easy it is to forget, or is it just convenient to forget how it all started?

Right. And he didn't-but he's not bowing out. So, he's a liar. Right?

Think. Do I seem stupid enough to try to convince even you that the economy was just fine when Obama took office?

You can thank Dodd, Frank and crowd for that mess. Do you know of whom I speak and to what mess I refer?

Let me make a suggestion: Learn what's going on politically before you display your ignorance on a message board. Maybe you won't come across looking as foolish as you do with asinine presumptions and false information.

Well now that you mention it, YES!!!!

Exactly what asinine presumptions and false information are you refering to?

The main asinine assumption is the fact that Obama could fix the economic problems we have in this Country with four more years of statist, entitlement-centered political mistakes along the lines of the stimulus, auto bailout and Obamacare.

The false information is any and all the empty-headed pap you've been fed by leftist media entities and other imbecilic demlibs and have tried to foist upon this BB in the form of truth.

He is a politician, show me one that isnt a liar.

Auto bailout was also the doing of Bush.

Just in case you forget:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N5kRVfmMoE

So it's the presidents fault that your neighbors took out a loan for a house they couldn't afford? I guess we are doomed... typical liberal....We can't handle our own finances so we need to goverment to tell us how much we can spend and what we can spend it on...

Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush come on people that was four god darn years ago!!!! get the F over it! That is seriously the best argument the democratic party can make is "welll... uhhh... well ya see.... uh.... George Bush did it!!! vote for me because I'm not george bush!" to anyone that has the ability to see the whole picture that is a joke. Again the sad part is not many people in this country can.... I hope intelligence prevails in November but i would be lying if I said i wasn't scared....

It's just as bad as laying many things Bush actually did on Obama's lap.

Once again, this whole issue is pre-Bush and pre-Obama and anyone blaming either of them has no clue what they are talking about.

Obama never said he wouldn't run again if the country couldn't turn around, his comment was referring to how he does not believe he will be re-elected if it does not.

The real blame is in the banking industry. Loan officers were pushing through loans that didn't even meet the minimum requirement of the already lax standards. People were not being properly explained what an adjustable rate loan really was, not being explained to about subprime and things like that.

The truth is, America is to blame, should have paid for a financial lawyer to look over that thing before signing. Our government is not responsible for your stupidity in a free country.

No sense in arguing about it. We'll know in a couple months.

What's important is that the Country pulls out of the ditch. There are still plenty of real Americans left to do the trick, provided we have competent leadership.

What was really stupid was bringing this thread back TTT when it was gently going into the sunset, LOL!

Kinda speaks for itself, huh?

Never mind Fritz, that under those same liberal policies. Greece, Spain, Germany, France, Ireland, Russia and many other nations are rapidly falling into the abyss. From which there is no recourse.

This thread was quiet to long, just thought I would get it stirred up again. LOL.

The US government owns 500 million GM shares. GM shares currently sit at $23.53, far below the $51 per share price necessary for taxpayers to break even. Selling the shares would recoup about $12.7 billion, but leave taxpayers with only about half of the $25.5 billion they have yet to get back from the $49.5 billion bailout of GM in 2009.

How's that bailout working?

It's clear to me now why, when something's all screwed up, they say it's "on the fritz".

And don't forget about Ron White... You can't fix stupid!

Your right, there is no fixing Romneys ass! Everytime he opens his mouth he puts his foot in it, he would probably be better off if he didnt talk, or at least thought before he spoke. I think he has lost this one boys. JMO.

I have to agree! Lmao! Good one.

So we need to forget about.....


Cash for Clunkers (read kick backs to UAW),

Unarmed guards at our international embassies (especially stupid in hostile countries)

5 trillion in wasted spending (reminder that it took Bush 8 years and two wars to spend less than this)

15 million more people on Food Stamps

23 million Americans on unemployment

Double down deficit spending (he promised to cut it by half)

60,000 unverifiable votes (that's just in Minnesota)

ACORN, proving that voter fraud is alive and thriving......

The list goes on and on Fritz....where should we stop?

Obama has buried this nations credit, it was under his watch that we were downgraded thank you.
This could have been ended, but noooo, you lousy libtard's with no sense of right or wrong.
No sense of good and bad, no common sense at all had to go elect this baboon to prove that your not racist, and you only proved that you have no reason to be breathing at all in the first place. Let alone enough intelligence to vote.

Come on, are you actualy trying to convince me that Romney is the intelligent answer? It is sad that with Obamas record the Republicans couldnt find ANYONE better to run than Romney! That was a wasted nomination as far as I am concerned because he doesnt have a snowballs chance in hell beating Obama. The Republicans obviously dont have ANYONE worth a crap in there party if Romney is the best they got.

You might want to flip on the news, the Dept. of Labor just released there latest numbers, there are now 125,000 more jobs than the day Obama stepped in office. Go figure, more bad news for Romney!

Frits, given Obama's record, my goldfish has a better chance of winning than obama does. So yes, I will take a proven track record of success (Romney) over a proven track record of failure after failure after failure (obama).

Apparently you havnt been watching the news or seen the latest polls. Romney is quickly falling farther and farther behind.

Polls don't tell us anything until the last week of campaigning. Until then its all speculation.
Besides, carter had similar poll numbers until Reagan ousted him in one of the largest electoral landslides in history. So frits, get ready for President Romney, Obama doesn't stand a chance.

15 million new entrants on food stamps

23 million unemployed Americans

5 trillion in new deficit spending

Obamacare

750 billion removed from Medicare

Cash for clunkers (union kickbacks)

shovel ready jobs that weren't shovel ready

an ambassador in a foreign country being killed, because the state department refused to allow our security there to be armed


These things are not good for America, frits.

I have to bring this post back so the Obama droids can eat crow