That pretty much repeated what I stated in my post.

The 22 hornet was never designed to shoot heavy, long sleek bullets. People that are loading longer, heavier, and sleeker bullets are asking it to do something for which it was never designed. These people will obviously need to rebarrel with a faster twist barrel in order to shoot these bullets.

Bullet weight has absolutely nothing to do with determining the proper twist rate for a bullet. Bullet length is what matters. Look at a hornets bullet profile and look at the profile of a bullet designed for the .223 or 22-250.

Now, the hand gun dilemma I fully agree with due to the velocity loss in a 10" - 14" barrel vs. a rifle barrel.






You may be surprised to know that a .22 long rifle barrel twist rate is also 1 in 16".

I aint buying that, 222 push a 40 gr to 3500 fps with no problems in a 1-12
a hornet is only gonna get 3 k and 2900 out of a 40 and 45 gr.
My NEF hornet is a 1-9 twist and it shoots 50 gr 45 gr and 40 gr hanloads, and 45 gr factory loads with the same POI out of all of them. She'll put 50 rounds in a 2" circle at a 100 using any one of these ammo

thats why the hornet didnt do to well, the 1-16 was to slow for even 45 gr bullets
like the 6mm didnt do well with a 1-12
they do get it wrong sometimes you know.

Again, I am going to say this as plainly as I can. The 22 hornet was never designed to shoot long, sleek bullets. It was designed to shoot very light weight bullets with very short ogives which makes a very short bullet. The 1 in 16 twist is more than acceptable for the intended purpose of the cartridge when it was designed.


A short and fat 35 grain bullet designed for the hornet.



A long and sleek 40 grain bullet for the faster 22 centerfires but should still be plenty stable in the hornets 16 twist.


A long sleek 50 grain bullet that likely would not be stable in the hornet.

VERY well done !!!

Thank you Bulls !

big bulls the hornet was designed for 45 gr bullets and a 1-16 was not fast enough.

from wikipedia:


"Older guns generally have a slower twist rate of 1-16" (or one turn in every 16 inches (410 mm) of barrel length) for lighter bullets with a .223 caliber dimension. Newer guns feature a faster 1-14" twist for 40 to 45-grain (2.9 g) bullets in the more standard .224 caliber."

the hornet was never known for accuracy in the early days, the 1-16 was the problem
some guns shot the 45gr ok and some didnt

why do manufacturers still build this gun in a 1-16 ? its not 1930 anymore.


go to this link and punch in the numbers.
http://www.realguns.com/calculators/riflingtwist.html
40gr vmax is .676 long at 2980 = a 1-13.4 twist

hehehe
ok but just do your own searching on hornet info