30-378 Wby vs 300 RUM
#31
Not a fan of 22 cals for game. They have some followers, just not me. And like I said, the whizbang magnum won't be shot too far without knowing how far my target is. Wind-bucking is another advantage I'm looking at. I'm not sure how people measure the speed of wind downrange--I'm just not that talented. And be assured, the wind blows in western Nebraska.
#32
I don't doubt the capabilities of the 22s on deer. I've seen a 223 used on them before, even with light little bullets things die. Eventually. The 22-250s are much nicer, and when I get a high-power 22, I'm planning on a 22-250 (yes, I plan on getting one for varmints/targets and just plain fun). But heck, I need at least a 6.5mm to be legal for elk in NE if I get the chance and want to use my [now] pretend rifle. I like 6.5s, but there's nothing wrong with the 7mm if that's what you're gettin at .
#33
You're favoring a tangent to what you want. I'm looking for something more practical than a 22 that can only shoot 75gr pills. Feel free to take exception from the weight ballgame. To a point I'm with you. I'm not looking at a 32" bull barrel with a benchrest stock if that's the point of view you've understood (though I do want length to give slow-burning powder a chance to do its trick). My point was a couple extra pounds ain't a big deal. And I'm not sure you realize I'm also not looking to shoot chicken eggs at over 500yds. Hummingbird eggs will have to suffice
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theres a good deal of advertising for the fairly new 6.5mm creed-more , and the 300 mags of various designs, promoting them as the best and flattest shooting calibers,thats absurd,
the 338 lapua and 340 wby and several other larger bore .416 rifles have the bullet mass to predictably place hits out well past the range most rifle owners can not even contemplate.
http://www.rifleshootermag.com/rifle...e_shot_010311/
the 1874 Sharps was the ideal rifle for long-range shooting. Buffalo hunters frequently made killing shots exceeding 500 yards, but Billy Dixon did that range some better in 1874.
Dixon was a 24-year-old buffalo hunter at a nondescript settlement known as Adobe Walls, the scene of a massive Indian attack 10 years earlier. Now the Comanche, Kiowa, Cheyenne and Arapaho were planning to attack the supply post again. The Indians outnumbered the 28 people at Adobe Walls 30 to 1.
The attack commenced on June 26 and raged for three days, with an estimated 700 warriors slain and 70 wounded. Frustrated, the Indians gathered on a distant bluff to reconsider their strategy. Seeing one of the warriors silhouetted, Dixon, who had lost his “Big 50″ Sharps in a skirmish, grabbed a friend’s .50-90 Sharps and fired. The warrior toppled from his horse. Their confidence shattered, the Indians grabbed the body and hastily rode away.
Later, the Army sent a team to verify the distance. It was 1,538 yards–7/8 of a mile. Years later, Dixon admitted it was a lucky shot. But he was also quoted as saying, “I was not without confidence in my marksmanship.”
https://www.hornady.com/team-hornady...rs/#!/standard
Read more: http://www.rifleshootermag.com/rifle...#ixzz55gCn8BTL
Kyle used the McMillan TAC-338 in Iraq in 2008 when he killed an insurgent who was about to fire on convoy - at a distance of 1.2 miles. The deadly weapon, which packs .338 Lapua Magnum bullets, weighs and costs less than a .50 caliber bullet.Feb 11, 2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longes...d_sniper_kills
favorite last words are those of yankee general John Sedgwick. He was berating some of his staff for taking cover from long range CS sharpshooters at Spotsylvania :"Why are you dodging like this? They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance." This was just before he was shot in the head. The range was around 1000 yards
does anyone remember history,.. a skilled RIFLEMAN, familiar with his modern .338-.416 caliber rifles trajectory can be a huge threat to any target he can see clearly
we as RIFLEMEN need to acquire the skills and experience and familiarity with our chosen equipment, as RIFLEMEN, YES, the equipment , while the rifles are vastly improved, they are not going to eliminate the need for skilled RIFLEMEN, and the reasonable flat shooting rifles with projectiles designed for long range work the 338 lapua and 340 wby both have the bullet mass and projectiles designed to reach out far further and accurately hit targets, further than most rifle owners can appreciate
http://www.bergerbullets.com/Reloadi...Lapua300gr.pdf
http://www.bergerbullets.com/Reloadi...thMag300gr.pdf
https://www.hornady.com/bullets/rifl...-bthp-match#!/
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/19...ail-box-of-100
the 338 lapua and 340 wby and several other larger bore .416 rifles have the bullet mass to predictably place hits out well past the range most rifle owners can not even contemplate.
http://www.rifleshootermag.com/rifle...e_shot_010311/
the 1874 Sharps was the ideal rifle for long-range shooting. Buffalo hunters frequently made killing shots exceeding 500 yards, but Billy Dixon did that range some better in 1874.
Dixon was a 24-year-old buffalo hunter at a nondescript settlement known as Adobe Walls, the scene of a massive Indian attack 10 years earlier. Now the Comanche, Kiowa, Cheyenne and Arapaho were planning to attack the supply post again. The Indians outnumbered the 28 people at Adobe Walls 30 to 1.
The attack commenced on June 26 and raged for three days, with an estimated 700 warriors slain and 70 wounded. Frustrated, the Indians gathered on a distant bluff to reconsider their strategy. Seeing one of the warriors silhouetted, Dixon, who had lost his “Big 50″ Sharps in a skirmish, grabbed a friend’s .50-90 Sharps and fired. The warrior toppled from his horse. Their confidence shattered, the Indians grabbed the body and hastily rode away.
Later, the Army sent a team to verify the distance. It was 1,538 yards–7/8 of a mile. Years later, Dixon admitted it was a lucky shot. But he was also quoted as saying, “I was not without confidence in my marksmanship.”
https://www.hornady.com/team-hornady...rs/#!/standard
Read more: http://www.rifleshootermag.com/rifle...#ixzz55gCn8BTL
Kyle used the McMillan TAC-338 in Iraq in 2008 when he killed an insurgent who was about to fire on convoy - at a distance of 1.2 miles. The deadly weapon, which packs .338 Lapua Magnum bullets, weighs and costs less than a .50 caliber bullet.Feb 11, 2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longes...d_sniper_kills
favorite last words are those of yankee general John Sedgwick. He was berating some of his staff for taking cover from long range CS sharpshooters at Spotsylvania :"Why are you dodging like this? They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance." This was just before he was shot in the head. The range was around 1000 yards
does anyone remember history,.. a skilled RIFLEMAN, familiar with his modern .338-.416 caliber rifles trajectory can be a huge threat to any target he can see clearly
we as RIFLEMEN need to acquire the skills and experience and familiarity with our chosen equipment, as RIFLEMEN, YES, the equipment , while the rifles are vastly improved, they are not going to eliminate the need for skilled RIFLEMEN, and the reasonable flat shooting rifles with projectiles designed for long range work the 338 lapua and 340 wby both have the bullet mass and projectiles designed to reach out far further and accurately hit targets, further than most rifle owners can appreciate
http://www.bergerbullets.com/Reloadi...Lapua300gr.pdf
http://www.bergerbullets.com/Reloadi...thMag300gr.pdf
https://www.hornady.com/bullets/rifl...-bthp-match#!/
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/19...ail-box-of-100
Last edited by hardcastonly; 01-30-2018 at 11:06 AM.