Win Mag vs. WSM
11-24-2009, 08:49 AM
#22
Fork Horn
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: central NY
Posts: 103
how does it cost less to reload?also how is it lighter? http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...ber=1390364441 http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...ber=1390510149.actually the brass is a little cheaper for the 300 win mag,they both take the same amount of powder. im not trying to be a smart ass i just thought i was missing something,i have looked at as many gun sights as i can think of and cant find a weight difference for the same rifle chambered in either.
Last edited by snuffynra; 11-24-2009 at 09:05 AM.
11-24-2009, 10:15 AM
#23
Fork Horn
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 159
I think he may have meant that the actual rifle may be a bit lighter due to the sometimes used short actions.. I wouldn't think it would be much but to some ever ounce counts to some individuals...you could adjust the recoil alot by playing with velocities if your a reloader and I believe "BIG GREEN" is actually doing that with power level shells these days....
11-24-2009, 11:06 AM
#24
Fork Horn
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: central NY
Posts: 103
i checked many gun sights for a weight difference,it does stand to reason a short action rifle could be a few ounces lighter,though no company's state that.i do know where you are coming from on every ounce counts,im an avid firearms collector and hunter,as i get older i notice the lighter rifles frequenting the woods with me more often then the big heavy ones
.the days of the 20 inch scopes with 4" sunshade on it seem to have dropped to the 2to7 and 1.5 to 4s.being that i am so into firearms,when the 300 wsm was introduced i studied it for some time.after all the hype(comes with most new chamberings)the differences were smaller then most seem to think,i have however found that some long action bolt guns can be harder to mount just any scope on without getting mounts that hang over the bolt.where the shorts seem to fit any.that was the biggest thing i ever found.both exceptional rifles,i would not lean to either one more then the other. lots of guys will use the ammo is harder to get for one(wsm) then the other ,if your typing on the internet then you can get the ammo for either.
.the days of the 20 inch scopes with 4" sunshade on it seem to have dropped to the 2to7 and 1.5 to 4s.being that i am so into firearms,when the 300 wsm was introduced i studied it for some time.after all the hype(comes with most new chamberings)the differences were smaller then most seem to think,i have however found that some long action bolt guns can be harder to mount just any scope on without getting mounts that hang over the bolt.where the shorts seem to fit any.that was the biggest thing i ever found.both exceptional rifles,i would not lean to either one more then the other. lots of guys will use the ammo is harder to get for one(wsm) then the other ,if your typing on the internet then you can get the ammo for either.
11-26-2009, 07:14 PM
#25
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Eastern PA
Posts: 12,714
Well if I had a 300 Win Mag (which I did), I would not run out and buy a 300 WSM. However, that being said, I don't think there is anything the Win Mag can do that the WSM can't. And If I was going to pick one, I would go with the WSM. I don't believe the ammo is an issue. The WSM has gained enough popularity in its short history that ammo is readily available. The rifles for the WSM are of equal quality as the Win Mag but are usually lighter. Personally, I think the WSM may have a slight edge in accuracy because of the more efficeint case. But the old Win Mag can be jusiced up a bit more throught reloading.
But its 6 of one, 1/2 doz of the other. Take your pick and pick the one that fits YOU better.
But its 6 of one, 1/2 doz of the other. Take your pick and pick the one that fits YOU better.
12-18-2009, 04:44 AM
#26
Typical Buck
Join Date: May 2005
Location: northern colorado
Posts: 749
Well, I cant speak for the 300, but I can effectively speak for the 7mm WSM and the 7mm Rem and I wouldnt want to live on the difference between them. I frankly love the WSM series but when dealing with the win mag, go with the win mag. The WSM is great, but ammo availability would win the battle for me. EJ
12-21-2009, 07:08 PM
#27
Spike
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: NJ
Posts: 70
I'm looking at these two cartridges as well. Most of the opinions I've heard and read are essentially similar to what everyone is saying here. The 300WM will be my choice because the differences bewteen the two are so slight, so why pay extra for the more difficult to find 300WSM ammo?
12-22-2009, 03:51 AM
#28
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: VA, USA
Posts: 3,116
Originally Posted by snuffynra
i checked many gun sights for a weight difference,it does stand to reason a short action rifle could be a few ounces lighter,though no company's state that.i do know where you are coming from on every ounce counts,im an avid firearms collector and hunter,as i get older i notice the lighter rifles frequenting the woods with me more often then the big heavy ones.the days of the 20 inch scopes with 4" sunshade on it seem to have dropped to the 2to7 and 1.5 to 4s.being that i am so into firearms,when the 300 wsm was introduced i studied it for some time.after all the hype(comes with most new chamberings)the differences were smaller then most seem to think,i have however found that some long action bolt guns can be harder to mount just any scope on without getting mounts that hang over the bolt.where the shorts seem to fit any.that was the biggest thing i ever found.both exceptional rifles,i would not lean to either one more then the other. lots of guys will use the ammo is harder to get for one(wsm) then the other ,if your typing on the internet then you can get the ammo for either.
.the days of the 20 inch scopes with 4" sunshade on it seem to have dropped to the 2to7 and 1.5 to 4s.being that i am so into firearms,when the 300 wsm was introduced i studied it for some time.after all the hype(comes with most new chamberings)the differences were smaller then most seem to think,i have however found that some long action bolt guns can be harder to mount just any scope on without getting mounts that hang over the bolt.where the shorts seem to fit any.that was the biggest thing i ever found.both exceptional rifles,i would not lean to either one more then the other. lots of guys will use the ammo is harder to get for one(wsm) then the other ,if your typing on the internet then you can get the ammo for either.http://www.browning.com/products/cat...35&type_id=201
12-22-2009, 07:53 AM
#30
Guest
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I reload for both. And can tell you, I can flat out, beat a WSM with a win mag with 180gr bullets. By a large margin.
But one thing for sure with WSM. Its a marketers dream. Just looking thru the posts thru this thread alone shows me, it made for internet generation.
bullistic facts and real data take the back seat to what marketers want you to believe.
But one thing for sure with WSM. Its a marketers dream. Just looking thru the posts thru this thread alone shows me, it made for internet generation.
bullistic facts and real data take the back seat to what marketers want you to believe.
