Does such a rifle exist?
#13

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well I'd have to put a limit on the package at 800 or so but not objecting to any thing used. Meeting this criteria, what is the most accurate rifle out of the box in say the .270 .280 30-06 .308 range? Im talking best accuracy for the money. If a $500 gun is just a hair less accurate than an $800gun, idrather make the compromise for the cheaper one.
Whats the best rifle for your money in this case?
well I'd have to put a limit on the package at 800 or so but not objecting to any thing used. Meeting this criteria, what is the most accurate rifle out of the box in say the .270 .280 30-06 .308 range? Im talking best accuracy for the money. If a $500 gun is just a hair less accurate than an $800gun, idrather make the compromise for the cheaper one.
Whats the best rifle for your money in this case?
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Join Date: Feb 2008
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So heres what I found when I looked at what you folks have recommended:
Ruger M77 Standard $803
Savage 11GCNS $659
Remington 700 BDL $927
Browning A-Bolt hunter field $899
Winchester 70 featherweight $799
Kimber 84M classic $1114
Sako 85 hunter $1626
T/C Icon ~ $800
Tikka T3 hunter $675
Vanguard Sporter $685
No one recomended the weatherby vanguard but I looked any way - Any one know the safety configuration on this? Same question about the T3.
All those prices are MSRP but I couldnt find one for the T/C but from what I hear they go for 800ish
From these prices with accuracy as a priority, which would you buy? I buy for Function not form. Which is the best shooter for the money?
Based on this the savage and Tikka seem most in my price range. Kimber and Sako would never be in my price range unless I find someones used sako truck gun which I doubt exists.
Whats the advice from here? Any suggestions not listed?
Ruger M77 Standard $803
Savage 11GCNS $659
Remington 700 BDL $927
Browning A-Bolt hunter field $899
Winchester 70 featherweight $799
Kimber 84M classic $1114
Sako 85 hunter $1626
T/C Icon ~ $800
Tikka T3 hunter $675
Vanguard Sporter $685
No one recomended the weatherby vanguard but I looked any way - Any one know the safety configuration on this? Same question about the T3.
All those prices are MSRP but I couldnt find one for the T/C but from what I hear they go for 800ish
From these prices with accuracy as a priority, which would you buy? I buy for Function not form. Which is the best shooter for the money?
Based on this the savage and Tikka seem most in my price range. Kimber and Sako would never be in my price range unless I find someones used sako truck gun which I doubt exists.
Whats the advice from here? Any suggestions not listed?
#15
Fork Horn
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Here's my recommendation to help you get a lotmore gun for your money -- be patient and look for a used one. I have never lost money on a used gun purchase -- can't say that on a new guns, however. I know to never say never, so it is very unlikely that I will ever buy another new gun at new gun prices.
My experience is that most used guns for sale have hardly been used, and if you're patient and look diligently, you'll eventually find what you're looking for without making too many sacrifices. Usually with a little elbow grease and an hour of you time, you can make a used gun look a whole lot better....
I saw a 700 BDL .30-06 at Gander Mountain yesterday, like new not a scratch in the stock or metal, for $625, and it had a perfectly fit Pachmayer Decellerator pad, not the factory plastic butt. It also had leupold rings and bases. Brand new that gun is around $825 at Gander Mountain, but they are usually a little high on new and used guns....
Look in newspapers, discussion forums, gunbroker.com, etc...I just purchased an 870 Wingmaster from a gentleman on this forum, about an hour away. It was a good deal, and I made a friend to boot.
My experience is that most used guns for sale have hardly been used, and if you're patient and look diligently, you'll eventually find what you're looking for without making too many sacrifices. Usually with a little elbow grease and an hour of you time, you can make a used gun look a whole lot better....
I saw a 700 BDL .30-06 at Gander Mountain yesterday, like new not a scratch in the stock or metal, for $625, and it had a perfectly fit Pachmayer Decellerator pad, not the factory plastic butt. It also had leupold rings and bases. Brand new that gun is around $825 at Gander Mountain, but they are usually a little high on new and used guns....
Look in newspapers, discussion forums, gunbroker.com, etc...I just purchased an 870 Wingmaster from a gentleman on this forum, about an hour away. It was a good deal, and I made a friend to boot.
#16

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So heres what I found when I looked at what you folks have recommended:
Ruger M77 Standard $803
Savage 11GCNS $659
Remington 700 BDL $927
Browning A-Bolt hunter field $899
Winchester 70 featherweight $799
Kimber 84M classic $1114
Sako 85 hunter $1626
T/C Icon ~ $800
Tikka T3 hunter $675
Vanguard Sporter $685
No one recomended the weatherby vanguard but I looked any way - Any one know the safety configuration on this? Same question about the T3.
All those prices are MSRP but I couldnt find one for the T/C but from what I hear they go for 800ish
From these prices with accuracy as a priority, which would you buy? I buy for Function not form. Which is the best shooter for the money?
Based on this the savage and Tikka seem most in my price range. Kimber and Sako would never be in my price range unless I find someones used sako truck gun which I doubt exists.
Whats the advice from here? Any suggestions not listed?
So heres what I found when I looked at what you folks have recommended:
Ruger M77 Standard $803
Savage 11GCNS $659
Remington 700 BDL $927
Browning A-Bolt hunter field $899
Winchester 70 featherweight $799
Kimber 84M classic $1114
Sako 85 hunter $1626
T/C Icon ~ $800
Tikka T3 hunter $675
Vanguard Sporter $685
No one recomended the weatherby vanguard but I looked any way - Any one know the safety configuration on this? Same question about the T3.
All those prices are MSRP but I couldnt find one for the T/C but from what I hear they go for 800ish
From these prices with accuracy as a priority, which would you buy? I buy for Function not form. Which is the best shooter for the money?
Based on this the savage and Tikka seem most in my price range. Kimber and Sako would never be in my price range unless I find someones used sako truck gun which I doubt exists.
Whats the advice from here? Any suggestions not listed?
I wanted to recommend the Vanguard because I love mine and its very accuratebut it only has a two position safety and has to be in the fire position to work the bolt. But as you can see she is a beauty.

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Join Date: Feb 2008
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Is that a new weatherby? Are they all made with that safety? Had a rem721 misfire when closing the bolt to unload - hence the requirement for a hinged floor/clip and safety that will allow working the action in safe mode. To this day don't know what happened with that rem
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Fork Horn
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hamiltucky, OH
Posts: 485

ORIGINAL: wolverine72
Here's my recommendation to help you get a lotmore gun for your money -- be patient and look for a used one. I have never lost money on a used gun purchase -- can't say that on a new guns, however. I know to never say never, so it is very unlikely that I will ever buy another new gun at new gun prices.
My experience is that most used guns for sale have hardly been used, and if you're patient and look diligently, you'll eventually find what you're looking for without making too many sacrifices. Usually with a little elbow grease and an hour of you time, you can make a used gun look a whole lot better....
I saw a 700 BDL .30-06 at Gander Mountain yesterday, like new not a scratch in the stock or metal, for $625, and it had a perfectly fit Pachmayer Decellerator pad, not the factory plastic butt. It also had leupold rings and bases. Brand new that gun is around $825 at Gander Mountain, but they are usually a little high on new and used guns....
Look in newspapers, discussion forums, gunbroker.com, etc...I just purchased an 870 Wingmaster from a gentleman on this forum, about an hour away. It was a good deal, and I made a friend to boot.
Here's my recommendation to help you get a lotmore gun for your money -- be patient and look for a used one. I have never lost money on a used gun purchase -- can't say that on a new guns, however. I know to never say never, so it is very unlikely that I will ever buy another new gun at new gun prices.
My experience is that most used guns for sale have hardly been used, and if you're patient and look diligently, you'll eventually find what you're looking for without making too many sacrifices. Usually with a little elbow grease and an hour of you time, you can make a used gun look a whole lot better....
I saw a 700 BDL .30-06 at Gander Mountain yesterday, like new not a scratch in the stock or metal, for $625, and it had a perfectly fit Pachmayer Decellerator pad, not the factory plastic butt. It also had leupold rings and bases. Brand new that gun is around $825 at Gander Mountain, but they are usually a little high on new and used guns....
Look in newspapers, discussion forums, gunbroker.com, etc...I just purchased an 870 Wingmaster from a gentleman on this forum, about an hour away. It was a good deal, and I made a friend to boot.
If these are reallyyour criteria:
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Im shopping for a new rifle with a few criteria: (bolt gun)
Wood stock - period
Hinged floor plate or removable mag
safety which allows you to work the action in "safe" mode
Im shopping for a new rifle with a few criteria: (bolt gun)
Wood stock - period
Hinged floor plate or removable mag
safety which allows you to work the action in "safe" mode
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actually to be more realistic I should probobly limit that budget to something more like 600$
actually to be more realistic I should probobly limit that budget to something more like 600$
"Accuracy out of the box" sounds like a great concept, but it has to be reconciled with that other maxim, "each rifle is a law unto itself".So, you may find a crappy Remington 710 that functions flawlessly & shoots bughole groups, and, conversely, you could also come across an brand new Sako that misfeeds, misfires, or shoots patterns rather than groups. This applies to both new AND used rifles. So, howdo youknow that therifle you're buying will shoot well?
If you look at many of the forums/auctions, you can find a gun in your price range, & then contact the seller to see if they'll show you pictures of groups to show how well that particular rifle shoots, and/or with what loads. I'd recommend fondling several new rifles, to see which brands/models seem to "fit" you best. Then you can go online & start looking for those models.
Also, what exactly do you want to do with this rifle? Punch paper? Shoot varmints? Hunt deer? Hunt bigger things than deer? Carry it all day, or shoot it froma bench? That may help direct feedback for you.
And, are you looking to buy a rifle AND a scope for that $600? If you're planning on woods hunting with shots < 75 yards or so, then you can probably get by with iron sights. Otherwise, serviceable scopes start around $125, and go up quickly from there.
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