Best valued hand gun?
#13
Typical Buck
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: Delaware OH USA
I'm going to give you three pieces of advice, first get a caliber which has low recoil and cheap ammo available so you can shoot alot. These would be 22LR, 38 Special, and 9mm.
Next, I would suggest a revolver for ease of shooting and ease of being safe. With a revolver, when you pull the trigger, they go bang. When you are not touching the trigger, they do not. Auto's are easy to unload and due to the wrong sequence of actions, have your gun still loaded. Auto's are also relatively dependant on spring pressures for function. So when a spring wears out, it can be an issue figuring out why the gun isn't reliable. This can even happen with a new gun. This timing is much more complex than revolver timing. Anyways, there is just a bit more hassle potential with an auto.
So to answer your request for a reccomendation. . .First, I would reccomend a standard size Springfield XD-9. These are generally reliable out of the box. 9mm is easy to shoot and fairly defensively capable. They also have a good grip shape and angle. Their finger on the trigger for shooting mode and finger off the trigger for safety, is a nice simple to learn action system.
My next and better reccomendation. . .A Smith and Wesson model 10, 64 or 686 revolver with a 4 in barrel. These are great guns because you can shoot 38 spcl rounds which are very unintimidating to shoot. The mid sized revolvers have 100's of different grips available to fit almost any possible shooter. The triggers are good out of the box. Then, with the 686, you have the option of loading up with the 357 magnum round for short range deer or a stronger defense round. In that way, it kind of grows with you. Used model 10 revolvers can be had for under $300 and are generally ready for many more years of shooting! These are ok for CCW, but better suited as a range gun or home defense gun.
The last reccomendation is to get a 22LR. A 22LR revolver is a great way to learn shooting handguns, shoot 1000's of rounds of cheap ammo and generally have a blast. In an auto, the Browning Buckmark is a very good 22LR auto.
Next, I would suggest a revolver for ease of shooting and ease of being safe. With a revolver, when you pull the trigger, they go bang. When you are not touching the trigger, they do not. Auto's are easy to unload and due to the wrong sequence of actions, have your gun still loaded. Auto's are also relatively dependant on spring pressures for function. So when a spring wears out, it can be an issue figuring out why the gun isn't reliable. This can even happen with a new gun. This timing is much more complex than revolver timing. Anyways, there is just a bit more hassle potential with an auto.
So to answer your request for a reccomendation. . .First, I would reccomend a standard size Springfield XD-9. These are generally reliable out of the box. 9mm is easy to shoot and fairly defensively capable. They also have a good grip shape and angle. Their finger on the trigger for shooting mode and finger off the trigger for safety, is a nice simple to learn action system.
My next and better reccomendation. . .A Smith and Wesson model 10, 64 or 686 revolver with a 4 in barrel. These are great guns because you can shoot 38 spcl rounds which are very unintimidating to shoot. The mid sized revolvers have 100's of different grips available to fit almost any possible shooter. The triggers are good out of the box. Then, with the 686, you have the option of loading up with the 357 magnum round for short range deer or a stronger defense round. In that way, it kind of grows with you. Used model 10 revolvers can be had for under $300 and are generally ready for many more years of shooting! These are ok for CCW, but better suited as a range gun or home defense gun.
The last reccomendation is to get a 22LR. A 22LR revolver is a great way to learn shooting handguns, shoot 1000's of rounds of cheap ammo and generally have a blast. In an auto, the Browning Buckmark is a very good 22LR auto.
#14
Joined: Nov 2008
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Go to a range that has a well stocked rental counter and ask advice. They will be eager provide you with the help you need. That's assuming you are in a firearms friendly state.
And if you like reading and getting internet advice first, I'd respectfully suggest you go over to a handgun forum. Being comfortable with longguns and hunting doesn't make you one knowledgeable in regards to handguns. Just as I, who is a pretty experienced rifleman (former military) and a frequent handgun shooter (weekly) ) doesn't ask a forum that is handgun-oriented about hunting questions (I came here).
If you want expert advice, go where the experts are. Absolutely no disrespect is meant to this group (or any other hunting forum), but I believe when seeking advice, you are best served going to a knowledgeable source on that particular subject.
Good luck.
And if you like reading and getting internet advice first, I'd respectfully suggest you go over to a handgun forum. Being comfortable with longguns and hunting doesn't make you one knowledgeable in regards to handguns. Just as I, who is a pretty experienced rifleman (former military) and a frequent handgun shooter (weekly) ) doesn't ask a forum that is handgun-oriented about hunting questions (I came here).
If you want expert advice, go where the experts are. Absolutely no disrespect is meant to this group (or any other hunting forum), but I believe when seeking advice, you are best served going to a knowledgeable source on that particular subject.
Good luck.
#16
Joined: Nov 2008
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As I stated, I mean no disrespect. And I feel your advice is solid. I have just found on this forum, and other longgun or hunting forums, that just because you know one type of firearm doesn't make you an expert on another.For example, and I don't believe it was here, but on a hunting forum someone asked for some handgun advice for his wife, a handgun novice. One of the posts suggested a snub-nosed J frame revolver in 357 (not even 38spl). Insane, but that piece of advice may have been given as much credence by others as the other posts. I am simply a "go where the pro's are" kind of guy. That's why for hunting advice, I came to a hunting forum.
FWIW, I think your advice is very solid.
FWIW, I think your advice is very solid.
#17
ORIGINAL: VAhuntr
I like Glock but you will have trouble getting a new one for under $400 unless you are able to get the LEO discount. I carry a Beretta as a duty weapon every day and would not hesitate to buy a Beretta, although it will cost more than $400 as well. You can also add Sig Sauer and H&K to the same list of excellent pistold.
Your best bet would be to go to some gunstores and handle different pistols and pick one that feels good to you. You may feel the difference between the pistols and find one that you are willing to spend a little extra for.
I like Glock but you will have trouble getting a new one for under $400 unless you are able to get the LEO discount. I carry a Beretta as a duty weapon every day and would not hesitate to buy a Beretta, although it will cost more than $400 as well. You can also add Sig Sauer and H&K to the same list of excellent pistold.
Your best bet would be to go to some gunstores and handle different pistols and pick one that feels good to you. You may feel the difference between the pistols and find one that you are willing to spend a little extra for.
Stupid.

Get a hi-point.
#18
ORIGINAL: Chris_H
$400?!?
Stupid.
Get a hi-point.
ORIGINAL: VAhuntr
I like Glock but you will have trouble getting a new one for under $400 unless you are able to get the LEO discount. I carry a Beretta as a duty weapon every day and would not hesitate to buy a Beretta, although it will cost more than $400 as well. You can also add Sig Sauer and H&K to the same list of excellent pistold.
Your best bet would be to go to some gunstores and handle different pistols and pick one that feels good to you. You may feel the difference between the pistols and find one that you are willing to spend a little extra for.
I like Glock but you will have trouble getting a new one for under $400 unless you are able to get the LEO discount. I carry a Beretta as a duty weapon every day and would not hesitate to buy a Beretta, although it will cost more than $400 as well. You can also add Sig Sauer and H&K to the same list of excellent pistold.
Your best bet would be to go to some gunstores and handle different pistols and pick one that feels good to you. You may feel the difference between the pistols and find one that you are willing to spend a little extra for.
Stupid.

Get a hi-point.
Chris_H,
The individual LEO price for a standard 9mm, .357 Sigor 40 S&W Glock(w/out night sights)is $398.20plus taxat my Glock LE dealer. You can get this price from a GlockLE dealer or order directly fromGlock. Pretty darn close to $400, don't ya think?? There are others who qualify for this discount other than LEO's,such as EMS, Firefighters, military,and etc.
So,before you call someone stupid, maybe you should get your facts straight!
#20
Typical Buck
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 534
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From: Delaware OH USA
If thtis thread has degraded to gget a hi-point, it is done. What value doe Hi-Point offer to the firearms world? When people tell me about HiPoints, I usually say,
"I only have one hand, you shoot a HiPoint. . .There is too much risk for me to shoot a HiPoint."
"I only have one hand, you shoot a HiPoint. . .There is too much risk for me to shoot a HiPoint."


