HEAD0001

I took a good friend to our 1,000 yard range yesterday. He is getting ready for a Wyoming deer hunt(2 weeks). He is a reloader and a fairly decent shot. He has a nice Browning rifle with a decent scope(Monarch UCC). He has his rifle shooting sub MOA at 100 yards. So he automatically extrapolated his accuracy to be under three inches at 300 yards?? Sounds right??

He was all over the place at 300. He was off the paper at 400. All he could do was blame the rifle. But when he got back to 100 he started clover leafing again.

I really do not have a question. I am just trying to point out that when you add distance to the equation, 100 yard accuracy is no big thing. I see a lot of guys post groups their rifle shoots at 100 yards. What I want to see is the group the rifle(and shooter) can print at 300 or 400 yards. Sub MOA is not very impressive at 100 yards. But it is at 400 yards(consistently). So come on guys, go out and shoot at 400 yards, and post those groups. Below is a 300 yard group from my Rock River. I shot the RR again yesterday at 200 yards(zero range), and this rifle was laying them in there. Tom.

doubleA

One thingI learned a long time agois that a load that shoots sub moa at 100 doesnt doesnt always equate to tight groups at longer ranges. In my case, I am not that big into tight groups but the rifle better shootto POA.

I just shot these last week at 500 yds with a.308 win, not the best that the rifle has shot, 96 degrees 5mph crosswind. Aiming point is the black dots. 5 shots on the left, 3 in the middle and 3 on the right. The 5 shot group was the last one shotand I totally blew a good group with the fifth shot. Oh well that's shootin, theyall wentunder moa.




Shot this 3 shot group with my 25-06 Cooper at 500yds recently. Point of aim is the middle of the cross. Measured slightly over 1 1/2 inches.

Power

Need to do more shooting. My Tikka shoots MOA out to 300 and further from my testing. These are from a couple years ago, if I get new ones I'll post them.

GermanShorthair2

My only question is how did you guys get the "powder burns" off you targets?

DannyD

Ridge,
How did the scope fail the test? aren't there too many variables at 660 yards with 1 shot to determine if the click test was successful or not? Especially since the 2 shot group is under 2 inches at that range.
I'm not a long range shooter so I may be off here but i'm trying to understand

Retaks

Here is a pic of a group from my 204 at 300 yards. This is 10 shots one after another. Thats the farthest ive ever shot.

Retaks

Here is what it dose with 5 shots at 100 yards. This was the same day as the other pic. I pulled on one of the shots because the guy next to me shot his 300 mag right as i was ready to fire.

mauser06

i dont have a range past 200yds right now...kinda stinks...


i do know that it takes some practice and a good shooter behind the rifle to make those longer range shots...ive taken groundhogs out to right about 350...ive missed alot more than ive hit...takes me a bit to get back into the groove of it...most guys think if they can shoot well at 100 and have a decent setup that they can do it....get them on the range looking at a target 100 or 200yds farther than theyve ever shot and they cant hit beans...

probably what happened with your buddy....a little time one the range would likely tune him up....

HEAD0001

There is no doubt that range time is important. However I personally believe that equipment has a lot to do with it. Wth all the arguments lately I was hoping to see a lot of input from the Savage guys. However I realistically did not expect any. Tom.

kodiakhuntmaster

Back when I had a 500 yard range to practice on, my Browning 300 win mag would get 3 1/2" groups at 300 yards, and 5 3/4" groups at 400 yards with 180 grain accubonds. At 100 yards the win ballistic silvertip ammo had a better group than the accubond, but the groups with the silvertips opened up W I D E after that. With those i was getting about a 5" group at 250 yards and anything over 300 was all over the paper.

I also noticed that I couldn't get any consistant groups unless my barrel was nearly spotless and cold. That Browning is a particular creature, but it did well when I did my part.