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BowHuntingFool 03-09-2009 09:29 PM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
Call the cops.... Mail fraud![:'(]

cowboy4513 03-10-2009 04:01 AM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 

ORIGINAL: BowHuntingFool

Call the cops.... Mail fraud![:'(]
X2 contact your local authorties.

mmkropp 03-10-2009 05:49 PM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
tess31470 posted the following:

"thats exactly what you said before and i have stuck to my side nothing is going to change my mind keep on saying what you want you have that rigt to do that but opions are like asses everyone has 1 and they all stink have a great day and as far a doctor death he just gave his opion on this he has outright ask me and i told him my side he is not takeing sides he did tell me if i didnt send them to send them and if i did he was sorry it is comeing out this way for me i will deal with him or eny body else who want to on here every one can belive what they want i will sleep tonight but ill bet ther will be more post on here thats what you said you were going to do so do what you wish thank for your time and trouble everyone on here and just like old crip he called me four ever and was as frendly as could be then out of the blue started runing his head on here after months of nothing from him that shows you how some people are 2 faced thanks everyone on here who has bough from me or sold to me for you messeges good or bad and mr.dd respects to you just hereing both sides and everone who has spoke about it se ya"




Just joined this forum today. This is my first post and kinda lame that i had to post on this thread (i read the whole thread).

There is ONLY ONE reason i will not deal with Scott Pierce aka tess31470, and i will say this as kindly as I can.

1. IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO DECIPHER HIS POSTS. How would i communicate with him!?

24wayne 03-10-2009 07:52 PM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 

ORIGINAL: tess31470

thats exactly what you said before and i have stuck to my side nothing is going to change my mind keep on saying what you want you have that rigt to do that but opions are like asses everyone has 1 and they all stink have a great day and as far a doctor death he just gave his opion on this he has outright ask me and i told him my side he is not takeing sides he did tell me if i didnt send them to send them and if i did he was sorry it is comeing out this way for me i will deal with him or eny body else who want to on here every one can belive what they want i will sleep tonight but ill bet ther will be more post on here thats what you said you were going to do so do what you wish thank for your time and trouble everyone on here and just like old crip he called me four ever and was as frendly as could be then out of the blue started runing his head on here after months of nothing from him that shows you how some people are 2 faced thanks everyone on here who has bough from me or sold to me for you messeges good or bad and mr.dd respects to you just hereing both sides and everone who has spoke about it se ya
Scott,

Yes, my post is exactly what I have said before...the truth has a funny way of never changing. It is what it is. What I have posted is not an opinion, it is what has happened. DoctorDeath did not just give his opinion, he posted what you had told him. I never said he was "taking sides" as there are no sides to be taken. Yes, people always have opinions but I certainly do not think that they all stink no matter what they may be...it is unfortunate that you feel that way.

Yes, people will believe what they want and I don't care what they believe either as long as they walk away with an awareness of what you have done and to protect themselves in the future. I would also have to agree with you that some people are two faced because you were more than happy to keep the lines of communication open while you were waiting for the money but suddenly couldn't return a message or email after cashing the check. Funny how people can be like that, isn't it?

After your above post about all of us having opinons, and your rude remarks that I feel are completely out of line, I decided that perhaps some of the opinions expressed recently deserved some more attention. The opinions of some of the members are that I should contact the authorities. So, after a trip to my post office today, and a long chat with my post master, I have completed the paperwork to file a mail fraud complaint against you, Scott Pierce of Longview, Texas. Other members had pointed the possibility out to me before but I truly was unaware that if you sent your payment via USPS then the mail system becomes a part of the crime. This allows you to file against the business or individual that took your payment and failed to deliver the service or merchandise. What you learn! While my post master pointed out to me that filing the complaint certainly doesn't assure that funds will be recovered he assured me that the postal service will thoroughly investigate the complaint as mail fraud is a federal offense and that they keep a record of all filings to help identify patterns of fraud from certain businesses and individuals. Perhaps someone else will also file if you defraud or already have defrauded them. Cyberspace is infinite and people from all over read and search. Do a search for your email, username, or even just your name and eventually these posts will come up. The internet allows millions of people to be aware of what has transpired and steps they can take if something like this has happened to them.

Scott, your previous two posts prompted my visit to the post office today and the subsequent mail fraud complaint. You stole money from me and instead of sending the dies, refunding the money, admitting your dishonesty or even just addressing your rants directly to me, you insult other members and make little sense while doing so.

Wayne





bigbulls 03-10-2009 09:14 PM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
They both could actually be telling the truth.

Several years agoI posted something for sale here (I think it was arrows). This was my first or second time selling something on a forum.I received the payment and sent the arrows. I stated that insurance was extra and the buyers choice. The buyer opted not to pay extrafor insurance or tracking. For this reason I kept the receipt from the post office. A couple of weeks went by and the buyer claimed that he never received the arrows and, if true, rightfully posted on this forum and ATI was a bad trader. However, I did defend my position, postseveralresponses, offered to send a copy of the post office receipt, and offered to return 50% of the payment and call it good. I never heard anything else about it.

I learned to add in the cost of insurance, tracking, and signature confirmation in the shipping price and will never sell another item with out these three things.

cowboy4513 03-11-2009 09:55 AM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
Bigbulls, But Tess said he sent it registered... that is a load of BS. it would have some kind of confirmation number... I work for UPS and send everything UPS within a day or two... well one instance right now but I havent been to work in 3 days. [:'(]

OneMustFall 03-12-2009 09:02 AM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
I also got screwed on a trade i did and still havent got my stuff,not with this person,but i left a big warning in the feedback section,so whaterver you do however it turns out 24wayne please leave your feedback for all to see,I still hope you get your stuff.

cowboy4513 03-13-2009 03:28 AM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
Wayne, Onemust fall makes a good point leave negative feedback in the feedback section. Everydeal I do on here I try to post if it was a good or bad experience. Everyone that I have purchased from has been great to deal with (so far) but hey $hit happens sometimes.

Bocajnala 03-13-2009 04:48 PM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
keep us updated on what happens, thisis a bad situationfor all parties involved!But, I'm interested to see the final result!
-Jake

BigJ71 03-16-2009 01:32 PM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
It's funny how tess31470 (Scott) can post on this thread as late as 3-9-09 and piss and moan about how everyones bashing him for apparently what he thinks to be no reason yet he has YET to come out and say definitively what has happened to the dies or the refund....Unbelievable!

24wayne has showed proof of payment and proof of you cashing his check, you have acknowledged a screwup on your end and promised to make it right yet have not provided ANY PROOF that you have made this deal square.

tess31470 you have NO RIGHT to come on here and post ANYTHING other than proof you have squared up with 24wayne....Until you do so I will consider you a flat out thief. You have the stage here......the perfect venue to show good faith and prove that you are a man of your word. You can put an end to this once and for all by showing PROOF that you have refunded the money or PROOF that shipment was made.

Unless you do either of those two things, anything you post on this thread will be taken for exactly what it is and thats a bunch of illiterately written rambling lies from a low life thief!

Grow up, man up and make this right!

geterdun3 03-16-2009 04:27 PM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
well i think this case is solved. Scott is a liar and/or theif from my point of view. i wasnt even going to post at all, until scott got on here and started to ramble on about nothing at all. he proved nothing but the accusations against him are 100%.

even if its possible it was a misunderstanding (which I doubt) who would want to take even a slight chance with him? im sure whatever item someone wants from him can be bought from somwehre else, even if it is a little more pricey

scott seems like a criminal and a dishonest person, flat out. lol i cant believe this post has lasted almost a year, and i cant believe im still fueling it by posting lol, it just made me mad

scott should have let it go. by coming on here and making no sense or not proving his situation, he seems less honest than he did before hand. i think we all learned a lesson - just sucks someone had to lose money for that to happen. i feel for ya wayne

bowmanaj 03-16-2009 07:48 PM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 

ORIGINAL: tess31470

thats exactly what you said before and i have stuck to my side nothing is going to change my mind keep on saying what you want you have that rigt to do that but opions are like asses everyone has 1 and they all stink have a great day and as far a doctor death he just gave his opion on this he has outright ask me and i told him my side he is not takeing sides he did tell me if i didnt send them to send them and if i did he was sorry it is comeing out this way for me i will deal with him or eny body else who want to on here every one can belive what they want i will sleep tonight but ill bet ther will be more post on here thats what you said you were going to do so do what you wish thank for your time and trouble everyone on here and just like old crip he called me four ever and was as frendly as could be then out of the blue started runing his head on here after months of nothing from him that shows you how some people are 2 faced thanks everyone on here who has bough from me or sold to me for you messeges good or bad and mr.dd respects to you just hereing both sides and everone who has spoke about it se ya
You know, they have these things called "periods". They help create sentences.

cowboy4513 03-17-2009 03:27 AM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 


ORIGINAL: bowmanaj


ORIGINAL: tess31470

thats exactly what you said before and i have stuck to my side nothing is going to change my mind keep on saying what you want you have that rigt to do that but opions are like asses everyone has 1 and they all stink have a great day and as far a doctor death he just gave his opion on this he has outright ask me and i told him my side he is not takeing sides he did tell me if i didnt send them to send them and if i did he was sorry it is comeing out this way for me i will deal with him or eny body else who want to on here every one can belive what they want i will sleep tonight but ill bet ther will be more post on here thats what you said you were going to do so do what you wish thank for your time and trouble everyone on here and just like old crip he called me four ever and was as frendly as could be then out of the blue started runing his head on here after months of nothing from him that shows you how some people are 2 faced thanks everyone on here who has bough from me or sold to me for you messeges good or bad and mr.dd respects to you just hereing both sides and everone who has spoke about it se ya
You know, they have these things called "periods". They help create sentences.
LMAO

Super Magnum 03-17-2009 09:41 AM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
WOW!! im outa breath from reading all that!! A years worth of posts there and still no resolution....

Bocajnala 03-19-2009 09:43 AM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
^^^ Try reading the forums to yourself, and not out loud. It's easier to just read it in your head and keeps you from getting out of breath!
-Jake

24wayne 03-21-2009 11:31 AM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
Surprisingly, this morning when I checked my email, the following arrived in my inbox:


tess31470 from HuntingNet.com Forums wrote:
[blockquote]hi wayne this is scott i did send the dies to you and have e mailed and posted on the web site but it hasent helped either of us at resolveing this i said i was sorry before for the delay where they went is a mistry / i did send them ,but if you were to stop and think if i was acuseing you of this and you sent them you would stick to the same ,i do feel like i did my part i feel like they were recived maybe not by you but they did go out thats my fault for not keeping up with all of my mailed items i will log on and write the same thing on the site , i will send you either of your choice a new set of dies because i do not have the others to send because i did send them , i just recived a packege that was sent monts ago it has been sitting in limbo at a post office in newyork for 3 months i acused him of the same thing we are going through you or no one else has to belive me or you ,this is why i am asking you if you want to settel this i have been cheeted before and did not
go into this to cheat enyone out of enything espicly for 40 dollors illl do my part and say i was wrong for waiting so long but i did send them i did recive your money i never denied that ,much longer and there will be10000 hit on the web site eny way im sorry if you think i was screwing you i felt like you were trying to get to me also e mail me or call i do and will answer or reply like i did before thank you scott 903 445 4137

[/blockquote]
Needless to say it was a surprise and hope that his want to settle this is truly genuine. I responded to his email with the following:

Scott,

First, let me start by saying that I appreciate your email to try and clear this up. Secondly, I want to reiterate that have received nothing from via USPS mail, UPS, FedEx, DHL or any other carrier since sending you the money. I purchased a set of 357 dies from a gun show about two months ago and certainly don't need or want another set, so at this point just send me back my money.
My address, in case you need it, is:

(address removed as I don't want to end up in one of those identity theft commercials however funny they may be)

When it arrives I will post on the forum.
Wayne

So, I will wait and see what happens.

Wayne


DoctorDeath 03-22-2009 03:21 AM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 

ORIGINAL: 24wayne

Surprisingly, this morning when I checked my email, the following arrived in my inbox:


tess31470 from HuntingNet.com Forums wrote:

[blockquote]hi wayne this is scott i did send the dies to you and have e mailed and posted on the web site but it hasent helped either of us at resolveing this i said i was sorry before for the delay where they went is a mistry / i did send them ,but if you were to stop and think if i was acuseing you of this and you sent them you would stick to the same ,i do feel like i did my part i feel like they were recived maybe not by you but they did go out thats my fault for not keeping up with all of my mailed items i will log on and write the same thing on the site , i will send you either of your choice a new set of dies because i do not have the others to send because i did send them , i just recived a packege that was sent monts ago it has been sitting in limbo at a post office in newyork for 3 months i acused him of the same thing we are going through you or no one else has to belive me or you ,this is why i am asking you if you want to settel this i have been cheeted before and did not
go into this to cheat enyone out of enything espicly for 40 dollors illl do my part and say i was wrong for waiting so long but i did send them i did recive your money i never denied that ,much longer and there will be10000 hit on the web site eny way im sorry if you think i was screwing you i felt like you were trying to get to me also e mail me or call i do and will answer or reply like i did before thank you scott 903 445 4137

[/blockquote]

Needless to say it was a surprise and hope that his want to settle this is truly genuine. I responded to his email with the following:

Scott,

First, let me start by saying that I appreciate your email to try and clear this up. Secondly, I want to reiterate that have received nothing from via USPS mail, UPS, FedEx, DHL or any other carrier since sending you the money. I purchased a set of 357 dies from a gun show about two months ago and certainly don't need or want another set, so at this point just send me back my money.
My address, in case you need it, is:

(address removed as I don't want to end up in one of those identity theft commercials however funny they may be)

When it arrives I will post on the forum.
Wayne

So, I will wait and see what happens.

Wayne

It sounds like Scott might be trying to do the right thing ....and if so better late then never.

dd

stalkingbear 03-23-2009 06:51 PM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
Those are just words-actions speak louder than words.







ORIGINAL: DoctorDeath


ORIGINAL: 24wayne

Surprisingly, this morning when I checked my email, the following arrived in my inbox:


tess31470 from HuntingNet.com Forums wrote:

[blockquote]hi wayne this is scott i did send the dies to you and have e mailed and posted on the web site but it hasent helped either of us at resolveing this i said i was sorry before for the delay where they went is a mistry / i did send them ,but if you were to stop and think if i was acuseing you of this and you sent them you would stick to the same ,i do feel like i did my part i feel like they were recived maybe not by you but they did go out thats my fault for not keeping up with all of my mailed items i will log on and write the same thing on the site , i will send you either of your choice a new set of dies because i do not have the others to send because i did send them , i just recived a packege that was sent monts ago it has been sitting in limbo at a post office in newyork for 3 months i acused him of the same thing we are going through you or no one else has to belive me or you ,this is why i am asking you if you want to settel this i have been cheeted before and did not
go into this to cheat enyone out of enything espicly for 40 dollors illl do my part and say i was wrong for waiting so long but i did send them i did recive your money i never denied that ,much longer and there will be10000 hit on the web site eny way im sorry if you think i was screwing you i felt like you were trying to get to me also e mail me or call i do and will answer or reply like i did before thank you scott 903 445 4137

[/blockquote]

Needless to say it was a surprise and hope that his want to settle this is truly genuine. I responded to his email with the following:

Scott,

First, let me start by saying that I appreciate your email to try and clear this up. Secondly, I want to reiterate that have received nothing from via USPS mail, UPS, FedEx, DHL or any other carrier since sending you the money. I purchased a set of 357 dies from a gun show about two months ago and certainly don't need or want another set, so at this point just send me back my money.
My address, in case you need it, is:

(address removed as I don't want to end up in one of those identity theft commercials however funny they may be)

When it arrives I will post on the forum.
Wayne

So, I will wait and see what happens.

Wayne

It sounds like Scott might be trying to do the right thing ....and if so better late then never.

dd

24wayne 04-01-2009 09:19 AM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
[quote]ORIGINAL: stalkingbear

Those are just words-actions speak louder than words.


Yes, so true. I still have received nothing in the mail or through email since responding to Scott. I sent an email to him today asking him what is going on. Scott, if you're reading this, why did you even bother to email me?

Wayne

LarryFox1 04-02-2009 08:08 AM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
I am so sorry Wayne,i have read every post in this thread.and i feel for ya[quote]ORIGINAL: 24wayne


ORIGINAL: stalkingbear

Those are just words-actions speak louder than words.


Yes, so true. I still have received nothing in the mail or through email since responding to Scott. I sent an email to him today asking him what is going on. Scott, if you're reading this, why did you even bother to email me?

Wayne


shump 04-06-2009 05:22 AM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
Do what i do when i get ripped off call the SHERIFF.I got ripped off 2 times and till it was over they sat in JAIL

finnbear 04-07-2009 03:57 PM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
So are we to assume that he was fibbing when he said he resent them andalso when he said he sent a refund???? I am having an hard time deciphering what point he is trying to get across!!!

cowboy4513 04-07-2009 04:24 PM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
Its stupid to even continue this thread at this point.

LarryFox1 04-07-2009 05:58 PM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
Why shouldn't it be continue?If he lie and done wrong,it should nerver stop untill it is made right

ORIGINAL: cowboy4513

Its stupid to even continue this thread at this point.

cowboy4513 04-08-2009 02:38 AM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 

ORIGINAL: LarryFox1

Why shouldn't it be continue?If he lie and done wrong,it should nerver stop untill it is made right

ORIGINAL: cowboy4513

Its stupid to even continue this thread at this point.

Beating a dead horse? You done heard of that? Hes not going to get anything back if it hasnt been resolved by now it wont.

ctwny1 04-08-2009 03:02 AM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
I am like TNHagies and just reading this I also have to agree with everything he said. Now if the shoe was on the other foot and Tess31470 never got what he paid for I wonder what his reaction would be? Would he be calling and e-mailing?

I don't blame 24Wayne at all and if it were me, I would be doing the samethings.If I could give some friendly advice to Tess31470..."There is a difference between scratching your butt and tearing it up."

glockman55 04-08-2009 04:32 AM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
Shall we vote on it to continue this? I say yes, If it was me that got screwed I would keep on this guys a## until it was resolved or his reputation was ruined.

LarryFox1 04-08-2009 06:50 AM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
Most likely he will nerver get anything out of him.But i see NO reason why he should let up and give this CROOK a easy way out.HOUND him into the ground,i say

ORIGINAL: cowboy4513


ORIGINAL: LarryFox1

Why shouldn't it be continue?If he lie and done wrong,it should nerver stop untill it is made right

ORIGINAL: cowboy4513

Its stupid to even continue this thread at this point.

Beating a dead horse? You done heard of that? Hes not going to get anything back if it hasnt been resolved by now it wont.

cowboy4513 04-08-2009 02:11 PM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
like he wont change his name or go to another site. this is stupid for what $30? everyone throw in a $1 and send it to wayne im sick of this trhead popping up

bigcountry 04-08-2009 03:03 PM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 

ORIGINAL: cowboy4513

like he wont change his name or go to another site. this is stupid for what $30? everyone throw in a $1 and send it to wayne im sick of this trhead popping up
No one is forcing you to read every thread. Just ignore it.

stalkingbear 04-09-2009 03:35 AM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
All you have to do is unsubscribe to this thread or simply ignore it and not read the posts like bigcountry says.

olcrip 04-09-2009 08:25 AM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
Cowboy4513, if your tired of reading this post I suggest that you bypass it and not read it. Your only frustrating yourself. If the SOB cheated one of my fellow forum members he should get his come upins. I say we organize a posse and haul a whole case of whoop-ass and teach this penny antySchmuck a lesson. If you let him get away with it he'll come back and want to fornicate with your sheep or your dog. He's a pervert and needs the thirty dollar score to gratify his perverted mind.

I say it's POSSE time. Kick his ass real good, don't ever let up until he's been hung.

DoctorDeath 04-10-2009 05:33 AM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 

ORIGINAL: olcrip

Cowboy4513, if your tired of reading this post I suggest that you bypass it and not read it. Your only frustrating yourself. If the SOB cheated one of my fellow forum members he should get his come upins. I say we organize a posse and haul a whole case of whoop-ass and teach this penny antySchmuck a lesson. If you let him get away with it he'll come back and want to fornicate with your sheep or your dog. He's a pervert and needs the thirty dollar score to gratify his perverted mind.

I say it's POSSE time. Kick his ass real good, don't ever let up until he's been hung.
Interesting post ...and "IF" he didnt ?

dd

olcrip 04-10-2009 08:38 AM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
If who didn't what?

SIDEWAYS 04-15-2009 04:03 PM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
Any resolve yet?



olcrip 04-15-2009 04:05 PM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
I guess Docterdeath is trying to figure that one out himself.

DoctorDeath 04-20-2009 03:54 AM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 

ORIGINAL: olcrip

If the SOB cheated one of my fellow forum members he should get his come upins.
I say it's POSSE time. Kick his ass real good, don't ever let up until he's been hung.
YOU said "IF" he did it ....Isaid AND "IF" he didnt THEN WHAT?

dd

olcrip 04-20-2009 08:00 AM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
In that case then the scammer should provide proof to all forum frequenters that he either shipped the dies or refunded the remittance to 24Wayne. That sounds fair and equitable to this Forum Junkie. If your name has been made MUD then show why the MUD does not belong on your name and clean it up. Don't hide behindnew forum name and go onwith business as usualJMO.

SShooterZ 04-22-2009 11:29 PM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 
Holy **** has this thread gone on long enough or what!?!?!

Now we have the internet police jumping in with their $.02 too.

Let it die! I think we ALL get the point now. [:-]

olcrip 04-23-2009 07:48 AM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 

ORIGINAL: SShooterZ

Holy **** has this thread gone on long enough or what!?!?!

Now we have the internet police jumping in with their $.02 too.

Let it die! I think we ALL get the point now. [:-]
Until this ******* makes it good, I would keep the fire going even though people like you get tired of it. Scam someone and you get the same ****. If it bothers you or lasts more than four hours, stop reading this post and call your internet doctor emmediatly.


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